Chapter X with Michael Kay

The Four Questions That Shape Retirement

What can we learn from someone who spent weeks living in retirement communities and interviewing dozens of retirees? That's exactly what today's guest set out to discover. Dr. Andi Simon is a corporate anthropologist whose curiosity about retirement led her to study how people navigate life after work. Although every story was different, she found that many retirees shared the same struggles and the same opportunities as they entered this next chapter. We discuss: * 4 questions almost everyone wrestles with after leaving their career behind * What surprised Andi after interviewing dozens of retirees * Why "Saturday every day" isn't always as fulfilling as it sounds * How friendships often change more than we expect after retirement * What an anthropologist sees that the rest of us often miss about retirement — Resources: Website: andisimon.com [https://www.andisimon.com] Book: Rethink Retirement [https://www.andisimon.com/rethink-retirement/]

Retirement Is Not Leaving the Arena

Jake Fishbein joined his first men's group for research. He was helping write a novel about men's groups and thought he should probably see one from the inside. What he didn't expect was that the experience would change the course of his own life. In this episode, we discuss why retirement can trigger an unexpected identity crisis, the challenge of separating who we are from what we do, and what it means to stay engaged with life long after a career ends. We cover: * Why retirement can trigger an unexpected identity crisis * The challenge of separating who you are from what you do * What it means to transition from achievement to eldership * Why staying "in the arena" matters at every stage of life * The fear of becoming irrelevant as we grow older * Lessons from a woman who began her most meaningful work in her seventies -- Keep Exploring If you enjoyed this conversation, check out Jake's novel, The Men's Group: A Novel of Messy Friendships. Amazon Print [https://www.amazon.com/Mens-Group-Novel-Messy-Friendships/dp/B0H31RVBC9] Amazon Kindle [https://www.amazon.com/Mens-Group-Novel-Messy-Friendships-ebook/dp/B0H31JMJXS/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0] Barnes & Noble Print [https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-mens-group-jacob-fishbein/1150260181?ean=9798900520247] Barnes & Noble Nook [https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-mens-group-jacob-fishbein/1150260181?ean=2940185207956]

What Success Can't Give You

Loneliness isn't something we usually associate with successful people. When the career ends, where do purpose, connection, and belonging come from next? My guest today is Carl Nassar. He's an engineer, teacher, businessman, and eventually, psychotherapist. After achieving everything his parents had hoped for, Carl realized the one thing he was still searching for was a sense of belonging. So he walked away from a tenured professorship, started over, and spent the next twenty-five years helping people find their way back to each other. In this episode, we covered: * Why Carl walked away from a tenured professorship to start over * The childhood lesson that fueled his drive to achieve * What thousands of therapy sessions taught him about loneliness * Why consumer culture promises belonging but rarely delivers it * How becoming a "lingerer" can lead to deeper relationships * Practical ways to build community in the next chapter of life -- Resources Website: https://carlnassar.com [https://carlnassar.com]

Becoming the Father You Needed

Larry Hagner was nine months old when his father left. For years, he searched for answers about the man he barely knew and the impact that absence had on his life. Today, Larry is the founder of The Dad Edge podcast, where he has spent more than a decade helping men become better husbands, fathers, and leaders. In this episode, Larry shares his story, from growing up without a father to raising four sons of his own. We discuss fatherhood, generational patterns, personal responsibility, and what it takes to be the father you didn't have. In this episode, we covered: * How Larry's experiences growing up influenced the father he became * Why repairing mistakes quickly is a critical parenting skill * The messages our parents pass down (and how to decide which ones to keep) * How to start breaking unhealthy generational patterns * What Larry has learned from raising four sons * Why good intentions are not enough and what to do instead -- Resources Podcast: The Dad Edge Podcast [https://thedadedge.com/podcast] Website: The Dad Edge [https://thedadedge.com/]

What Matters More Than Living Longer?

What if the goal isn't just to live longer, but to remain capable of doing the things you love for as long as possible? After decades as a physician, surgeon, and medical innovator, Dr. Arnon Krongrad believes we've been asking the wrong question. Rather than chasing longevity, he's focused on something he calls "functional supremacy." Today, Arnon challenges conventional thinking about health and aging. You'll hear why he believes physical, cognitive, and emotional function may matter far more than simply adding years to our lives. We discuss: * How to prepare for a life you still want to be living decades from now * Why the best health goal may have nothing to do with a number on a chart * The challenge of staying physically, mentally, and emotionally sharp as we age * What becomes possible when you stop measuring success by lifespan alone * How to build a future worth staying healthy for -- Resources Ezz: https://worldofezz.com [https://worldofezz.com] Learn more about Ezzpedition 2026: https://www.worldofezz.com/ezzpedition2026/ [https://www.worldofezz.com/ezzpedition2026/]