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Digitalized Differently: Ukraine and Europe

43 min · 9 de abr de 2026
Portada del episodio Digitalized Differently: Ukraine and Europe

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What separates countries that succeed in digital government transformation from those that don't? In this episode, Oleksandr Iefremov, CEO of Kitsoft, and Daniel Korski — one of the key pioneers of GovTech in Europe, former advisor to UK Prime Minister David Cameron discuss how Diia built trust in a country where trust in government has never been high, why Europe is divided between vanguards and laggards, and what it really takes to drive change. "If the Ukrainians can do this at war, what can you do at peace?" This is Code the State. Powered by Kitsoft, the team behind Liquio, and produced with the support of the ITU.

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