Michael J. Lilly Podcast
If you were to sit down with a modern Christian, hand them a Bible, and ask them where the story begins, almost all of them would immediately turn to Genesis 1:1. We tend to open the book, look at the physical creation of the heavens and the earth, and assume we are starting at the absolute beginning of the story. Yet, the story of God actually begins much earlier than that. We already understand that God exists outside of time, before a single atom of matter was ever spoken into existence. But there’s more to the biblical story than our usual, flattened perspective tends to recognize. Understanding this pre-historical beginning is not just an exercise in academic trivia. If we misunderstand where the story truly starts, the rest of the biblical narrative—especially the Old Testament—can easily seem like a disconnected series of strange or even violent events that do not fit together. We end up missing the larger cosmic conflict that’s unfolding just beyond the surface of human history. To really grasp the story of salvation, we need to recover the perspective of the early Church and consider what God was doing before humanity ever entered the picture. Before any act of creation, God existed perfectly. God isn’t a solitary, isolated monarch sitting alone in the sky. He’s a Triune community of perfect love: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. As St. Gregory of Nazianzus taught in the fourth century, the “monad” is moved by love into a “triad.” This means God’s very nature is relational and communal. Because God is love, He did not create the universe out of any need, lack, or loneliness. He did not require creation in order to have someone to love, since perfect love already existed within the Trinity itself. Instead, God created the cosmos out of an overflowing desire to share His own life and love with others. In this sense, creation is best understood as an act of pure grace. The Unknowable God When we talk about this eternal God, we have to start by admitting what we cannot know. The Eastern Patristic tradition heavily emphasizes “apophatic” theology, which means approaching God by defining what He’s not. We can say God is uncreated, infinite, immortal, and incomprehensible. If we could fully comprehend God, He wouldn’t be God. He would be something small enough to fit inside our finite minds. But if God is completely beyond our comprehension, how can we actually know Him without it being a contradiction? To explain how an infinite God can interact with a finite creation, the early Church Fathers (such as St. Basil the Great and St. Gregory Palamas) maintained a strict distinction between God’s Essence (what He is in Himself) and His Energies (His actions and grace in the world). One of the simplest ways to understand this distinction is to think about the sun. The sun itself is a blazing core that we cannot touch. If you tried to approach the essence of the sun, you would not survive. Yet, the sun also sends out rays of light and heat. You can stand outside, feel the warmth on your skin, and see by its light. These rays aren’t something separate from the sun; they’re the real energy of the sun reaching us. In the same way, God’s Essence (ousia) is completely unknowable and unapproachable. No created thing can touch the Essence of God and live. But God’s Energies (energeiai) are His grace, light, and life radiating outward. We can experience, know, and participate in His energies. This distinction resolves the apparent contradiction and establishes the doctrine of Theosis (deification). It means we don’t just learn intellectual facts about a distant deity. We literally participate in God’s uncreated life and energies without becoming the Creator ourselves. God remains entirely distinct by nature but completely united to us by grace. The First Creation: The Unseen Realm Before God created the physical universe, He first brought into being the spiritual realm and the angelic hosts. In doing so, He established a spiritual family that would share in His governance. If you grew up in the modern West, especially within a Protestant or Evangelical context, your understanding of the spiritual world is probably much more limited than that of the early Christians. Many of us picture heaven as a mostly empty space, with God seated on a throne and a group of indistinguishable angels playing harps and singing songs around Him. This image misses the rich and complex supernatural worldview that the biblical authors assumed. In the ancient perspective of the Apostles, the spiritual realm was not a passive choir, but rather a highly organized administration. We see this clearly in the Greek Old Testament used by the early Church. Take a look at the vision of the prophet Micaiah: “I saw the God of Israel sitting upon his throne, and all the army of heaven stood around him, on his right and on his left.” (1 Kgs 22:19). The Greek word translated here as “army” is stratia, which refers to an organized host or a military camp. This is not just a crowd of spectators. It’s an active, structured administration of spiritual beings gathered around God’s throne to receive instructions, discuss decisions, and participate in God’s rule over the world. We see a similar scene in the introduction to the trials of Job: “And it happened on this day, and behold, the messengers of God came to stand before the Lord, and the devil came with them.” (Job 1:6). The Greek word angeloi simply means “messengers.” They’re described as “standing before” the Lord (parastēnai). This is a very specific term used for courtiers standing before a king in a royal court. God holds a royal audience with His created spiritual beings, taking their reports and delegating tasks. The early Church understood that God assigned these ranks of bodiless powers to govern the natural elements, the stars, and eventually the nations. In fact, this is precisely why New Testament writers frequently use political terms like “thrones,” “dominions,” and “principalities” to describe spiritual forces. They were acknowledging these beings as literal, geographical ruling deities. The Divine Council God chooses to govern His creation together with His spiritual family, delegating real authority to them. The early Church recognized this administrative body as the Divine Council. The Greek text makes it clear that these spiritual beings hold a high status. They’re not just messengers; they are rulers. Notice how the psalmist describes them: “God stood in the assembly of gods, and in the midst, he will judge gods.” (Ps 82:1). The phrase “assembly of gods” translates the Greek synagōgē theōn. Here, the psalmist is describing an actual gathering of divine beings. God stands in the midst of this council to pronounce judgment on those members of the administration who have not fulfilled their responsibilities. What were these duties? The Scriptures reveal that when God scattered humanity at Babel, He literally assigned these divine beings to govern the different nations of the earth. As the Greek text says, “When the Most High divided the nations... he set up the boundaries of the nations according to the number of the angels of God.” (Deut 32:8). God delegated actual geographic and political dominion to this council. Just a few verses later in the Psalm, God explicitly addresses these beings: “I said, you are gods, and all of you are sons of the Most High.” (Ps 82:6). God directly calls these beings theoi (gods). For Western Christians, seeing the word “gods” used in this way can be unsettling. Influenced heavily by the Enlightenment, the modern West has demythologized the Bible. Modern commentaries often try to explain this away by claiming the “gods” in Psalm 82 are just corrupt human judges of Israel, or perhaps statues made of wood and stone. They do this out of a fear that acknowledging other spiritual rulers will lead to polylatreia. But applying this metaphorically to human leaders is completely inconsistent and falls apart when you look closely at the text. First, the psalmist records God’s judgment against these beings, declaring, “But you will die like humans, and you will fall like one of the rulers” (Ps 82:7). If these beings were already human judges, threatening them that they will “die like humans” makes absolutely no sense. You don’t threaten a human by telling him he will die like a human. Second, the human leaders of Israel were never given dominion over all the pagan nations of the earth. The beings being judged here are the exact same spiritual entities who were assigned to govern the nations back in Deuteronomy 32. The ancient Jews and the early Christians didn’t share this modern fear. To understand how they read these texts, we have to note the crucial difference between the ideas of theism and latreia. The concept of theism simply deals with believing in the existence of spiritual beings. But latreia specifically refers to divine worship. Acknowledging that other created gods existed didn’t violate their strict monolatreia (the worship of only one God). Monolatreia didn’t mean that no other spiritual beings exist. It meant there is only one uncreated, eternal Source worthy of our worship: God. The other “gods” are created beings who were given administrative authority over the cosmos by the Most High. Recognizing a king’s royal court doesn’t threaten the king’s ultimate sovereignty. The Historical Shift While this concept has mostly faded from view in the modern era, the idea of the Divine Council and a plurality of divine figures in heaven was actually mainstream, orthodox Judaism during the Second Temple period. This was the very framework the Apostles themselves used to make sense of the world. Similarly, Christian Trinitarian theology wasn’t a later Greek invention layered over the Bible. It grew directly out of this ancient, pre-Christian Palestinian belief in a High God who ruled over a council of divine beings. However, after the first century, Rabbinic Judaism began to heavily downplay and actively suppress this theology. The reason is directly tied to the rise of the early Church. Early Christians were successfully using this ancient Jewish framework of multiple divine figures to explain the Trinity and how Jesus Christ could be God incarnate. When early Christians pointed to the “assembly of gods” or the visible “Angel of the Lord” who accepted worship in the Old Testament, they argued this was the pre-incarnate Christ. Even into the second century, some rabbis still taught that passages like Daniel 7 revealed multiple thrones in heaven for divine figures. But their peers quickly condemned them, accusing them of treating the Divine Presence as “profane” in a frantic effort to suppress anything that sounded like Christian doctrine. In an effort to distance themselves from Christianity, later rabbis redefined Jewish monotheism into a much stricter, more solitary model than what existed in the ancient Second Temple period. They deliberately set aside the older texts that spoke of God’s divine council, hoping to avoid any overlap with Christian theology. Centuries later, the Protestant Reformation and the Enlightenment continued this trend, further removing the supernatural hierarchy from the Western imagination and leaving us with the much flatter spiritual world we see today. The earliest Christians didn’t invent a new religion or infect Judaism with Greek ideas. They were simply preserving the original, ancient Israelite belief in a High God and His divine council. To understand the biblical story correctly, we have to put back on the lenses of the early Church. God is a Trinity who created a vast spiritual family to help rule His cosmos long before humanity arrived on the scene. He delegates authority to His creatures (including Man) because He’s a God of love and communion. Get full access to Test Everything at testeverything.substack.com/subscribe [https://testeverything.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]
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