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#186 The First Domino: Why Your Billing Problem Starts at the Front Desk

20 min · 12 de jun de 2026
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Most practice owners think their billing problem is a billing problem. It usually is not. The denial showing up this month started 60 days ago at the front desk. In this episode, Dr. Heather Signorelli sits down with Josh Sauter, President and CEO of Staffing First, to unpack why hiring is the first domino in your billing cycle, what it costs you when that domino falls, and how to think about staffing and revenue cycle as one connected system instead of two separate problems.  SEGMENTS  The first domino  Josh's core insight: the front desk is where the billing cycle actually begins. A bad fit, a thin onboarding, or a missed training step upstream creates downstream denials 30, 60, 90 days later. The denials almost always look like a billing problem. They almost never are.  The 30/60/90 day lag  Why billing problems usually trace back to hiring decisions made a quarter ago. The eligibility check that did not happen on day 30 is the denial that lands on day 60 and the cash flow gap on day 90.  The hire-slow trap  Why saving money on staffing costs more in the long run. The wage gap pushing practices to underhire is the same wage gap pushing candidates out within the first year. Josh's view after 17 years: cheap hires are the most expensive line item in a practice.  Coordinating front office and billing  What it actually takes to make sure front desk failures do not kill claim throughput downstream. Weekly huddles between front office, billing lead, and the practice manager. Clear escalation paths for eligibility failures and payer changes. A billing partner that flags denial patterns back upstream instead of just working the claims.  What a real staffing partner does differently  Josh's process: 10 to 12 candidates interviewed for every order, top 2 to 3 sent to the practice. Deep questions about culture and not just skill. Behavioral health background applied to candidate screening. The practice manager gets the time back that they were burning on bad-fit interviews.  REFERENCE TABLE: THE 30/60/90 DAY FRONT DESK LAG  Timeline  | What happens upstream  | Where it shows up Day 0  | New front office hire, undertrained or wrong cultural fit  | Looks fine on the surface Day 30  | Eligibility checks missed, demographics keyed wrong, payer changes not caught  | First denials start landing Day 60  | Patterns compound, claim rework volume rises, missed authorizations stack  | AR over 60 starts climbing Day 90  | Practice blames the billing department  | Billing partner gets fired and replaced, problem persists  THREE ACTIONS THIS WEEK  * Pull your last 90 days of denials and tag every one that traces back to front office (eligibility, demographics, missing authorization). Patterns will reveal hiring or training gaps before they hit Q3 cash.  * Run one weekly 15-minute huddle between front office, billing lead, and practice manager. Cover the top three denial reasons that week. Every week.  * Book a 1:1 with Heather to map the front desk to billing handoff in your practice: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd/  RESOURCES  1. Book a 1:1 with Heather Signorelli, MD: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd/  2. The 30-Day Revenue Recovery Plan: eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrc/-30day-revenue-recovery-plan  3. Talk to Josh Sauter at Staffing First: staffingfirst.net  |  jsauter@staffingfirst.net  4. Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard: eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3  5. Payment Posting Audit Checklist: eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist  6. RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz: natrevmd.com/quiz

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Portada del episodio #186 The First Domino: Why Your Billing Problem Starts at the Front Desk

#186 The First Domino: Why Your Billing Problem Starts at the Front Desk

Most practice owners think their billing problem is a billing problem. It usually is not. The denial showing up this month started 60 days ago at the front desk. In this episode, Dr. Heather Signorelli sits down with Josh Sauter, President and CEO of Staffing First, to unpack why hiring is the first domino in your billing cycle, what it costs you when that domino falls, and how to think about staffing and revenue cycle as one connected system instead of two separate problems.  SEGMENTS  The first domino  Josh's core insight: the front desk is where the billing cycle actually begins. A bad fit, a thin onboarding, or a missed training step upstream creates downstream denials 30, 60, 90 days later. The denials almost always look like a billing problem. They almost never are.  The 30/60/90 day lag  Why billing problems usually trace back to hiring decisions made a quarter ago. The eligibility check that did not happen on day 30 is the denial that lands on day 60 and the cash flow gap on day 90.  The hire-slow trap  Why saving money on staffing costs more in the long run. The wage gap pushing practices to underhire is the same wage gap pushing candidates out within the first year. Josh's view after 17 years: cheap hires are the most expensive line item in a practice.  Coordinating front office and billing  What it actually takes to make sure front desk failures do not kill claim throughput downstream. Weekly huddles between front office, billing lead, and the practice manager. Clear escalation paths for eligibility failures and payer changes. A billing partner that flags denial patterns back upstream instead of just working the claims.  What a real staffing partner does differently  Josh's process: 10 to 12 candidates interviewed for every order, top 2 to 3 sent to the practice. Deep questions about culture and not just skill. Behavioral health background applied to candidate screening. The practice manager gets the time back that they were burning on bad-fit interviews.  REFERENCE TABLE: THE 30/60/90 DAY FRONT DESK LAG  Timeline  | What happens upstream  | Where it shows up Day 0  | New front office hire, undertrained or wrong cultural fit  | Looks fine on the surface Day 30  | Eligibility checks missed, demographics keyed wrong, payer changes not caught  | First denials start landing Day 60  | Patterns compound, claim rework volume rises, missed authorizations stack  | AR over 60 starts climbing Day 90  | Practice blames the billing department  | Billing partner gets fired and replaced, problem persists  THREE ACTIONS THIS WEEK  * Pull your last 90 days of denials and tag every one that traces back to front office (eligibility, demographics, missing authorization). Patterns will reveal hiring or training gaps before they hit Q3 cash.  * Run one weekly 15-minute huddle between front office, billing lead, and practice manager. Cover the top three denial reasons that week. Every week.  * Book a 1:1 with Heather to map the front desk to billing handoff in your practice: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd/  RESOURCES  1. Book a 1:1 with Heather Signorelli, MD: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd/  2. The 30-Day Revenue Recovery Plan: eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrc/-30day-revenue-recovery-plan  3. Talk to Josh Sauter at Staffing First: staffingfirst.net  |  jsauter@staffingfirst.net  4. Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard: eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3  5. Payment Posting Audit Checklist: eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist  6. RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz: natrevmd.com/quiz

12 de jun de 202620 min
Portada del episodio #185 What Happens to Your Wealth When the Practice Has a Bad Quarter

#185 What Happens to Your Wealth When the Practice Has a Bad Quarter

Most independent practice owners know the practice and their personal life are supposed to be separate. Separate entities, separate accounts, separate tax returns.  Almost none of them have built the structural separation that makes that true when things get hard.  EP185 covers the three systems that explain why one bad quarter in the practice becomes a personal financial event, and the firewall that stops it.  System 1 — The Entanglement:  No formal salary. No distribution schedule. Whatever is left in the business account goes home with the owner. In a good month: $40,000. Mortgage, 529, investment contribution. In a bad month: $14,000, covered with personal savings. The savings account does not come back as fast as the practice does.  System 2 — The Bad Quarter Multiplier:  The cascade that runs from a billing disruption straight through to the owner's personal financial decisions. Collections drop. Distribution skipped. Mortgage still goes out. Investment contribution paused. Operational decisions made under financial stress — delay the hire, pull back on marketing, hold off on the software upgrade that would have fixed the billing gap that caused the problem. That practice is always one bad quarter away from making decisions a wealthier version of itself would never make.  The Cascade in Numbers:  * Payer delays 45+ days → Operating account drops → Owner stops paying themselves first  * Denial rate spikes 5% to 14% → $28K/month delayed or lost → Personal savings tapped for household bills  * Key provider unexpected leave → Volume drops 30% → No distribution for 60 days  * Contract renegotiation stalls → 90 days cash flow uncertainty → Investment contributions paused indefinitely  System 3 — The Firewall:  A market-rate owner salary that does not move with revenue. A distribution schedule tied to net profit after a defined reserve threshold. Personal savings that build independent of what the practice has on hand. In a bad quarter: the salary still goes out, the distribution pauses, and the operational decisions come from strategy instead of personal financial pressure.  Referenced: Profit First by Mike Michalowicz — the formula flip that makes the firewall mechanical.  Three actions this week:  * Calculate your real owner salary — what you would pay someone else to do your job  * Define your operating reserve threshold — one month of payroll minimum, two months standard  * Schedule a financial separation review with your accountant — ask what a 30% revenue drop does to your personal finances  Episode breakdown:  00:00 The $380K practice that one quarter turns  03:00 The big idea: revenue is not wealth  06:00 System 1: The Entanglement  10:30 Working vs. broken — the same practice, two outcomes  13:30 System 2: The Bad Quarter Multiplier  17:00 The cascade and what it actually costs  20:00 System 3: The Firewall  24:30 Profit First applied to a medical practice  27:00 Three actions this week  31:00 Free resource + EP185 tease  Resources Mentioned  Payment Posting Audit Checklist (free):  eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist [https://eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist]  Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard (free):  eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3 [https://eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3]  Book a free 30-minute audit call:  calendly.com/heather-natrevmd [https://calendly.com/heather-natrevmd]  RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz:  natrevmd.com/quiz [https://natrevmd.com/quiz]  Book referenced: Profit First by Mike Michalowicz

9 de jun de 202629 min
Portada del episodio #184 You Are the Most Expensive Person Doing $15 Tasks in Your Practice

#184 You Are the Most Expensive Person Doing $15 Tasks in Your Practice

Independent practices rarely lose money because the medicine is wrong. They lose it because the highest-paid person is buried in clerical work and the front desk is too deep in daily chaos to chase eligibility, fill cancelled slots, or collect patient balances. We sat down with Tim Boyle of Reva Global Medical to talk about medically trained virtual assistants, and where the recovered revenue actually comes from.  The front-end gap  Scheduling, eligibility, verification, and prior authorization are the number-one denial categories. A front-desk team in the middle of ringing phones and walk-ins cannot also run the strategic prep that prevents those denials. A dedicated VA can, and that is usually the first seat to delegate.  The no-show math  A practice can run 20% open availability from no-shows. Without someone working a waitlist to fill those slots, that is overhead the practice simply eats. A VA reaching out the day before, and pulling from a call list when a slot opens, both lifts the patient experience and recovers revenue.  The back-end gap  Statements go out, but nobody works them. A trained VA handles patient-balance collections and the AR backlog, using HIPAA-certified propensity-to-pay tools to make a genuinely hard conversation go as well as it can for the patient.  Who not how  Heather and Tim land on the same idea the most successful owners share: protect your zone of genius and delegate the rest. The framing comes from Who Not How by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy. Clerical work is the low-hanging fruit, and the first thing to hand off.  How the right VA is hired  Reva accepts roughly 5% of applicants. The practice interviews finalists one-on-one with Reva’s camera off, so the owner chooses who joins the team. SOPs are set up first, a client services manager reports daily or weekly, and the practice does not pay until the VA is trained and working.  THREE ACTIONS THIS WEEK  * Download the 30-Day Revenue Recovery Plan and start working it from day one this week.  * Pull your no-show rate for last month and multiply it by your average visit value. That is your waitlist opportunity.  * List the three clerical tasks eating your day that do not require a clinician. That is your first delegation.  EPISODE BREAKDOWN  * Tim’s path from pro hockey to healthcare sales  * Why revenue leaks at the front desk  * Letting go of control as a practice owner  * The hiring and training process (the 5% filter)  * Who Not How and your zone of genius  * Back-end collections and the tough patient conversation  * What it costs and what comes back  RESOURCES * 30-Day Revenue Recovery Plan — eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrc/-30day-revenue-recovery-plan  * Book a Call with Heather — calendly.com/heather-natrevmd  * Payment Posting Audit Checklist — eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist  * Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard — eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3  * RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz — natrevmd.com/quiz  * Reva Global Medical — revaglobalmedical.com  |  Tim Boyle — Tim@revaglobalmedical.com  * Book referenced: Who Not How by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy

5 de jun de 202621 min
Portada del episodio #183 How Multi-Location Practices Lose Revenue Between Sites, Part 2

#183 How Multi-Location Practices Lose Revenue Between Sites, Part 2

Part 2 of our multi-location revenue series. If you haven't listened to Part 1 (EP182) yet, start there — the systems in this episode build directly on what we covered last week.  EP182: Click here [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/182-how-multi-location-practices-lose-revenue-between/id1624182351?i=1000770159216] Today we cover the two structural problems that let the Part 1 gaps stay open: front-end data inconsistency across sites, and the one role that either holds a multi-site practice together or lets it fall apart.  System 3 — The EHR and Billing Disconnect:  Different front desks develop different habits. One site verifies eligibility morning-of. The other verifies the day before. One collects copay at check-in. The other sends a statement after. A practice doing $120,000/month at Location B with a 20% authorization miss rate sends $24,000/month into billing with incomplete data. Some claims get caught in scrubbing. Some get denied. Some sit in a gray zone no one can explain at month-end review.  Front-End Gap Reference:  * Authorization not captured → Denial or recoupment post-payment  * Insurance not updated at visit → Claim sent to wrong payer  * Copay not collected at check-in → Patient AR that rarely converts  * Eligibility verified day-of only → Coverage lapses missed pre-visit  System 4 — The Office Manager Problem at Scale:  Location A has a strong office manager who has been there since the beginning. Location B has whoever was available when the site opened. The metrics look similar on paper. The difference shows up in the denial rate, days in AR, authorization miss rate, and the number of times the billing manager has to fix something that should have been caught at the front desk. A $90,000/month site with an underperforming office manager loses an estimated $8,000 to $15,000/month in avoidable billing delays. That is $180,000/year from one seat filled with the wrong person.  Three actions this week:  * Audit front-end protocol consistency — pull authorization miss rate and eligibility verification rate by site  * Run a site-level office manager assessment — KPIs only, not by feel  * Schedule weekly site-level KPI reviews — separate meetings, not consolidated  Episode breakdown:  00:00 Series callback: the gap the report will not show you  02:00 The thread left open in Part 1  04:30 System 3: The EHR and Billing Disconnect Across Sites  08:00 The $24,000/month authorization miss scenario  11:30 Who owns the front-end protocol fix  14:00 System 4: The Office Manager Problem at Scale  18:30 The $180,000/year gap from one wrong seat  22:00 Who owns the accountability structure  24:30 Three actions this week  28:00 Free resource + next episode tease  Resources Mentioned  Payment Posting Audit Checklist (free):  eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist [https://eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist]  Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard (free):  eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3 [https://eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3]  Book a free 30-minute audit call:  calendly.com/heather-natrevmd [https://calendly.com/heather-natrevmd]  RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz:  natrevmd.com/quiz [https://natrevmd.com/quiz]  EP182 — Part 1 of this series:  Link here [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/182-how-multi-location-practices-lose-revenue-between/id1624182351?i=1000770159216]

2 de jun de 202614 min
Portada del episodio #182 How Multi-Location Practices Lose Revenue Between Sites, Part 1

#182 How Multi-Location Practices Lose Revenue Between Sites, Part 1

You opened a second location because the first one was working. What no one told you: the moment you added that second site, you added a second set of revenue gaps. And most of them are invisible on a consolidated report. In Part 1, we cover the two most expensive gaps inside multi-location practices doing over $300,000 a month. Neither generates a single denial. They just show up as missing revenue no one can explain. System 1 — The Credentialing Gap: A provider sees patients at a new site before credentialing is finalized. The claims go out. The payer rejects them, or pays provisionally and recoups months later. One provider, 60 uncredentialed days, 15 patients per day at $180 per visit: $162,000 in claims at risk. The front desk who scheduled those patients had no idea. System 2 — The Shared Billing Problem: One billing team covers both locations. Denials get triaged by volume, not by site. The smaller location falls behind. Its AR days climb past 40, then 50. Six months of recoverable claims cross the timely filing window. A secondary site at $90,000/month with a 12% denial rate instead of the target 5% loses $6,300/month in unworked denials. Over a year: $75,600. That is the gap the report will not show you on a consolidated view. Three actions this week: * Build your credentialing matrix (one row per provider, one column per location, effective dates visible)  * Pull a site-specific AR report — not consolidated, by site  * Set a site-level denial threshold and define what triggers an immediate review meeting  Episode breakdown: 00:00 The revenue gap no consolidated report will show you 02:00 Why multi-location growth is a systems problem 04:30 System 1: The Credentialing Gap 09:00 The $162,000 scenario 12:00 Who owns the credentialing matrix 14:30 System 2: The Shared Billing Problem 18:00 The $75,600/year site-level loss 21:00 Who owns the site-specific AR report 23:30 Three actions this week 27:00 Free resource + Part 2 preview Credentialing Scenario Reference: 1 provider | 60 days | 15 pts/day | $180/visit = $162,000 at risk 2 providers | 30 days | 12 pts/day | $200/visit = $144,000 at risk 1 provider | 90 days | 10 pts/day | $150/visit = $135,000 at risk Resources Mentioned: Payment Posting Audit Checklist (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/payment-posting-checklist Practice Revenue Leak Scorecard (free): eligibility.natrevmd.com/nrm-revenue-scorecard-v3 Book a free 30-minute audit call: calendly.com/heather-natrevmd RECOVER Diagnostic Quiz: natrevmd.com/quiz

29 de may de 202611 min