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Temptations in Ruin w/ Alice von Bieberstein

36 min · 9 de jul de 2026
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In this episode, Xenia Cherkaev speaks with Alice von Bieberstein about her book ‘Temptations in Ruin: Sovereign Accumulation and the Making of Post-Genocide Turkey’. The book develops the concept of sovereign accumulation to analyse the political-economic afterlife of the Armenian genocide under conditions of 21st-century neoliberal extractivism and ongoing counterinsurgency warfare against the Kurdish freedom movement. It does so ethnographically through the story of an urban regeneration scheme in the historically Armenian quarters of the city of Muş in what is today far-eastern Turkey, but which is also part of Northern Kurdistan and was once part of the heartland of Western Armenia. Following the quarter’s demolition, residents moved on to dig the foundations of their homes in search of what is locally known as ‘Armenian’ treasures or gold. Some individuals and groups also developed ideas and concrete projects of heritagization. The book thus looks at how Armenian material remains are targeted in different modalities of value-extraction, stewardship, and care in ways that re-animate the 1915 genocide against Armenians in its specificity as a moment of primitive accumulation that brought into being a racialized property regime that continues to reflect in different positionalities today. Cherkaev and von Bieberstein discuss how the history of sovereign violence continues to shape relations between state, capital, and citizens in this predominantly Kurdish region of Turkey; how this history becomes recursive and itself a kind of necro-economic frontier; and how these broader analytical insights point beyond Turkey to illiberal undercurrents structuring logics of accumulation in the 20th and 21st centuries.

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Portada del episodio Temptations in Ruin w/ Alice von Bieberstein

Temptations in Ruin w/ Alice von Bieberstein

In this episode, Xenia Cherkaev speaks with Alice von Bieberstein about her book ‘Temptations in Ruin: Sovereign Accumulation and the Making of Post-Genocide Turkey’. The book develops the concept of sovereign accumulation to analyse the political-economic afterlife of the Armenian genocide under conditions of 21st-century neoliberal extractivism and ongoing counterinsurgency warfare against the Kurdish freedom movement. It does so ethnographically through the story of an urban regeneration scheme in the historically Armenian quarters of the city of Muş in what is today far-eastern Turkey, but which is also part of Northern Kurdistan and was once part of the heartland of Western Armenia. Following the quarter’s demolition, residents moved on to dig the foundations of their homes in search of what is locally known as ‘Armenian’ treasures or gold. Some individuals and groups also developed ideas and concrete projects of heritagization. The book thus looks at how Armenian material remains are targeted in different modalities of value-extraction, stewardship, and care in ways that re-animate the 1915 genocide against Armenians in its specificity as a moment of primitive accumulation that brought into being a racialized property regime that continues to reflect in different positionalities today. Cherkaev and von Bieberstein discuss how the history of sovereign violence continues to shape relations between state, capital, and citizens in this predominantly Kurdish region of Turkey; how this history becomes recursive and itself a kind of necro-economic frontier; and how these broader analytical insights point beyond Turkey to illiberal undercurrents structuring logics of accumulation in the 20th and 21st centuries.

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