The Dispatch Podcast

David Frum joins Jamie Weinstein to break down Trump’s Iran strikes, the brewing civil war within MAGA over foreign policy, and the winners (and losers) of the tariff war. The Agenda: —The state of the Trump administration —Analyzing the Iran strikes —MAGA’s foreign policy split —Immigration policy —J.D. Vance and opportunism —What’s going on with the Democratic Party? The Dispatch Podcast is a production of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Dispatch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://thedispatch.com/?utm_source=mainfeed&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=the-dispatch-podcast], a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and regular livestreams—⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here. [https://thedispatch.com/join/?utm_source=mainfeed&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=the-dispatch-podcast] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

There’s a growing fog over what exactly American forces accomplished in Iran on Saturday—and whether regime change is still on the table. Steve Hayes is joined by Jonah Goldberg and Mike Warren to discuss the intelligence-gathering process and why Iran is just not the same as Iraq, as well as New York City’s Democratic mayoral primary. Will Mamdani’s victory be good news for the Trump administration and for Florida’s real estate market? The Agenda: —Iran, Saturday to today —Intelligence, national security, and institutional trust [https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc] —Vietnam Syndrome turned Iraq Syndrome [https://thedispatch.com/article/iran-bombing-iraq-syndrome-bush-trump/] —Where the wind might be blowing on Iran’s regime change —Why NYC’s mayoral race might be good for Florida real estate [https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/morning/mamdani-wins-nycs-democratic-mayoral-primary/] —Campaign advice —Summer sips and the speculative history of Orange Crush [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Crush_(cocktail)] Show notes: —Mike Warren for The Dispatch: “What the Iran Strike Reveals About MAGA’s Future [https://thedispatch.com/article/donald-trump-iran-jd-vance-marco-rubio-maga/]” —Jeffrey Goldberg on The Remnant [https://thedispatch.com/podcast/remnant/the-goldberg-doctrine/] —Kevin Williamson for The Dispatch: “Yes to Regime Change in Iran [https://thedispatch.com/article/yes-to-regime-change-in-iran/]” —Jeremiah Johnson for The Dispatch: “Mamdani's Big Apple Upset [https://thedispatch.com/article/new-york-mamdani-victory-variance/]” The Dispatch Podcast is a production of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Dispatch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://thedispatch.com/?utm_source=mainfeed&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=the-dispatch-podcast], a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and regular livestreams—⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here. [https://thedispatch.com/join/?utm_source=mainfeed&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=the-dispatch-podcast] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Jamie Weinstein is joined by Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska to discuss her new book, Far from Home: An Alaskan Senator Faces the Extreme Climate of Washington, D.C. [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/743990/far-from-home-by-lisa-murkowski-with-charles-wohlforth/], as well as Congress’ role in the Iran-Israel conflict. The Agenda: —Lessons learned from Congress —Congressional approval and conflict with Iran —Should the U.S. support regime change? —Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill —Political retribution from President Trump —January 6: ‘You cannot unsee what we saw.’ —Age limits in Congress —Optimism for democracy Scheduling Note: This episode’s publication was moved up due to the news value of the conversation. The Dispatch Podcast with Jamie Weinstein will return on Monday, June 30. The Dispatch Podcast is a production of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Dispatch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://thedispatch.com/?utm_source=mainfeed&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=the-dispatch-podcast], a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and regular livestreams—⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here. [https://thedispatch.com/join/?utm_source=mainfeed&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=the-dispatch-podcast] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton joins Steve Hayes to react to the United States’ attacks on Iranian nuclear facilities over the weekend and outline what he wants to see next from the Trump administration. Then, Steve is joined by Kevin Williamson, Charlotte Lawson, and retired Army Special Forces officer Mike Nelson to discuss Israel’s role and how Iran might retaliate. The Agenda: —Bolton on what regime change looks like [https://x.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1936828726928421225] —Should we send boots on the ground? —Vice President J.D. Vance on no regime change [https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1936786621673640271] —Iran’s technology in the conflict —Making a face-saving deal —Alliance of malfeasance Show Notes: —TMD's reporting on the strikes [https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/morning/iran-strikes-b2s-bunker-busters/] —Mike Nelson's piece for The Dispatch defending the strikes [https://thedispatch.com/article/us-iran-strike-khameini-hamas-hezbollah/] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Is it time to take out Iran’s Fordow nuclear site? As pundits gaze through their crystal balls attempting to determine what President Trump will do next, Trump administration officials are fighting over the United States’ direct involvement in the Iran-Israel conflict. Sarah Isgur, Steve Hayes, Jonah Goldberg, and John McCormack analyze the many factions of MAGA and the future of Iran. The Agenda: —Israel and Iran: what’s next? [https://thedispatch.com/article/donald-trump-iran-tucker-carlson-ted-cruz/] —Tulsi Gabbard trying to be relevant [https://thedispatch.com/article/no-tulsi-gabbard-did-not-say-iran-was-close-to-having-nuclear-weapons/] —The cult of Trumpism —We’re against political violence Show Notes: —Jonathan Ruhe’s piece for The Dispatch [https://thedispatch.com/article/no-breathing-room-for-iran/] —Jonah’s Remnant with Ken Pollack [https://thedispatch.com/podcast/remnant/locating-the-centrifuge/] The Dispatch Podcast is a production of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Dispatch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://thedispatch.com/?utm_source=mainfeed&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=the-dispatch-podcast], a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and regular livestreams—⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here. [https://thedispatch.com/join/?utm_source=mainfeed&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=the-dispatch-podcast] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]