Perspective Shifts for Healing with The Hanged Women
As part of the summer relaunch of Perspective Shifts for Healing with The Hanged Woman (formerly The Hanged Woman Podcast), host Julienne Irons re-releases this thought-provoking conversation with spiritual psychology–trained coach Joel Drazner. What if happiness isn’t something you achieve? What if peace isn’t waiting at the end of your healing journey? Joel shares the insight that transformed his life: our feelings don’t come from our circumstances—they come from our thinking. From there, he introduces a radically simple understanding of awareness, challenging the belief that happiness lives somewhere outside ourselves. Together, they explore the illusion of separation, why we spend our lives chasing fulfillment, how relationships change when we stop expecting others to make us happy, and why the peace we’re searching for may have been here all along. Whether you’re hearing this conversation for the first time or revisiting it with fresh ears, this re-release offers a powerful invitation to stop searching and begin noticing. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome & Happiness Series 01:29 Three of Cups Healing 02:29 Meet Joel Drazner 04:07 Why Circumstances Don’t Create Feelings 06:03 Thinking Creates Experience 09:41 The Peace Beneath Every Emotion 13:12 Radical Simplicity 15:32 Why We Chase Happiness 18:21 The Illusion of Separation 21:21 Experiencing Oneness 24:16 Seeing Beyond Labels 27:46 Awareness & the Senses 28:53 One Shared Experience 30:24 Midroll 32:20 Happiness as Awareness 33:47 Watching Thoughts & Emotions 37:25 Free Will & Control 42:09 “I Am” Awareness Practice 46:49 Relationships Without Attachment 52:08 Nothing Outside of Me 55:45 What Happiness Really Is 58:20 Closing Reflections Perspective Shifts for Healing with The Hanged Woman is presented by 3 of Cups Healing. 🤳🏽 Connect with us Instagram: @3ofCupsHealing Website: 3ofcupshealing.com ✨ Learn more about 3 of Cups Heart-Centered Branding 👉🏽 https://www.3ofcupshealing.com/ ✨ Learn more about our Healing After Loss course 👉🏽 https://www.3ofcupshealing.com/halcourse 🙌🏽 Connect with Joel Drazner Website: joeldrazner.com Substack: No Point B! — https://thedraz.substack.com/ If you’d like to explore these ideas more deeply, Joel recommends Living in Peace, Living as Peace by Rupert Spira—a 33-minute guided meditation accompanied by a PDF that invites you to recognize the peace already present within you, independent of circumstances. It’s available for $10 at spirastore.gumroad.com/l/livinginpeace. You can also explore more of Rupert’s work on Substack at transparencyofthings.substack.com.
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