Refinery Podcast Launch (EP 1)

Finding God in the Middle of the Mess (EP 2)

In this episode of The Refinery Podcast, Malu and Emma dive into one of the most difficult questions people of faith wrestle with: If God is good, why does He allow bad things to happen? They open up about personal moments of pain and doubt, unpack how free will and a fallen world play a role in suffering, and share how God still brings beauty from brokenness. This episode is raw, honest, and filled with hope — reminding listeners that even when life hurts, God’s purpose is still at work behind the scenes.

Refinery Podcast Launch (EP 1)

Welcome to The Refinery Podcast. In this first episode, Malu sits down with Emma to talk about the foundation of the show — the four pillars of refinement: spiritual, mental, physical, and financial. Together, they dig into what it really means to grow through life’s challenges instead of running from them. From faith and discipline to mindset and purpose, this episode is about becoming more grounded, more intentional, and more refined by the fire.