Episode 25: Valeisha Butterfield On Audacity, Dating After Divorce & Why Humility Is Dead

Episode 28:Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s Royal Wedding, Cardi B’s CNN Moment, & a Wild Fourth of July

Joy and Hayley are back from the 4th of July with stories to tell, starting with a campsite "Karen" who tried to police everyone's music and ending with a real conversation about identity and history. Along the way: is everyone over parenting in 2026?  Cardi B gives Black Americans their flowers on CNN, and the girls give their honest take on the Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce "American royal wedding." Plus, a Two Personal listener question sends Joy down memory lane to her wildest years. 00:00 Intro & Holiday Weekend Recap  02:01 The Campsite "Karen" Confrontation  08:23 Are 2026 Parents Doing Too Much?  14:29 Cardi B's CNN Interview & Reclaiming Black American History  19:05 The "American Royal Wedding": Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce  28:41 Never Two Personal: Your 20-Year-Old Self vs. Now See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

Episode 27: Melissa Fredericks On Faith, Marriage & Finding Herself in Her Second Act

Melissa Fredericks, the woman behind Kev on Stage Studios, steps out solo for what may be her first-ever podcast appearance without her husband. Joy Taylor pulls back the curtain on who Melissa really is: a rule-follower navigating the lawless world of entrepreneurship, a mother of two Black boys, a woman interrogating her faith, and someone quietly trying to find her footing in a brand new chapter of life. From the Jeezy cancel attempt to vulnerability in marriage to what it actually takes to keep a 20-year relationship alive, this conversation goes deep.   In this episode: (00:00) Intro | Melissa's First Solo Podcast Appearance (01:03) The Internet Tried to Cancel Them Over Jeezy (04:23) What Christianity Is Actually Supposed to Look Like (16:00) Raising Black Boys & The Weight They Carry (22:24) Empty Nesting, Kev Wants Her to Write a Movie & Finding Herself (29:00) 20 Years of Marriage: What This Chapter Looks Like Now (41:13) Feeling Unanchored After Motherhood (48:12) Vulnerability, The Dog Analogy & Saying Yes Twice (58:00) Making Real Friends in Hollywood is Hard (01:03:35) Waiting to Exhale Friendship & Writing a Rom Com (01:09:00) Where to Follow Melissa Subscribe and tune in for more episodes. New episodes every Tuesday and Thursday at 9AM PST. See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

Episode 26: Cannes Lions, BET Awards, Men With Female Friends & My Best Life Moments

Joy flies solo this week with stories from her trip through France, a breakdown of what Cannes Lions is really like for creators and brands, BET Awards reactions, and her now-viral take on why men having female friends is a green flag. She closes with a Never Two Personal segment on the best moments of her life heading into 40.   00:00 France & Cannes recap 04:38 Cannes Lions strategy and imposter syndrome 13:00 BET Awards recap 18:52 White House BTS 19:56 Men with female friends debate 44:43 Never Two Personal See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

Episode 25: Valeisha Butterfield On Audacity, Dating After Divorce & Why Humility Is Dead

Joy Taylor sits down with Valeisha Butterfield, Obama administration alum, Recording Academy's first-ever Chief Diversity & Inclusion Officer, and founder of Seed Media. Get ready for a raw, wide-ranging conversation on audacity, the death of humility, entrepreneurship, dating post-divorce (with a hiking story that will have you screaming), sisterhood, and what it means to be a Black woman in this moment.   0:00 — Intro: Joy introduces Valeisha and teases the topics 1:02 — Audacity: Redefining the word and why mediocre men have it in abundance 3:02 — The case against humility: "I am not humble before other humans" 4:40 — Working loud: Taking credit for your work and not letting anyone swoop it 6:50 — Playing the game strategically in corporate and political spaces 7:44 — Valeisha's mom moment: The audacity to take your full maternity leave 9:29 — The girlboss myth and why the conversation is exhausting 11:34 — How scared are we? Living in unprecedented times 12:20 — Why Valeisha isn't afraid: People move where culture moves 13:44 — Is culture in a good place? Music, art, film, and who we're platforming 17:07 — Empowering creators: Pick up the camera, don't wait for the green light 19:27 — Young people, their time, and learning to live with less 23:18 — Valeisha's shift from corporate to entrepreneurship 26:57 — The one thing Joy and Valeisha cannot stand: Wasted time 27:33 — Dating after divorce: The lover girl problem 29:38 — Love bombing — why it's a red flag AND why it feels so good 33:14 — Meeting your kids: The story of the restaurant ambush 39:00 — Men in their midlife era, online illusions, and the gender war myth 44:00 — Dating apps — what worked, what didn't, and a hiking story gone left 58:40 — What's keeping Valeisha centered right now 1:00:02 — Boundaries as a muscle: Saying no to protect your peace 1:02:17 — Women relationships as the key to survival 1:06:27 — Black women, solidarity, and a direct charge to non-Black women 1:12:24 — Closing: Something has to give, and we have to be ready 1:13:47 — Outro See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

Episode 24: AI Tilly Norwood, Female Friendships & Marriage Chemistry

Joy Taylor is bringing all the opinions this week. She breaks down the NYT's viral 8,000-word profile on AI actress Tilly Norwood and explains why she's unbothered. AI doesn't scare her in the creative space, full stop.  Then she gets into the essay going around about what actually destroys female friendships (quiet dishonesty, not big betrayals), and why being confrontational is actually a form of respect.  The marriage chemistry debate hits next. Joy weighs in on whether you can settle down with someone who isn't the greatest sex of your life. Spoiler: the answer is nuanced but the delivery is not. Joy wraps with Never Two Personal, answering whether maintaining friendships with exes is mature or a red flag. 0:00 — Intro 0:00 — AI & the NYT Tilly Norwood Article 7:10 — What Actually Breaks Female Friendships 12:44 — Don't Marry the Best Sex of Your Life 18:49 — Never Two Personal: Boyfriend & His Ex See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.