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The Human Experience Can't Be Automated with Mark Canlis Pt 2 | #15

25 min · 3 de jun de 2026
Portada del episodio The Human Experience Can't Be Automated with Mark Canlis Pt 2 | #15

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What if the future of leadership isn't about more control, but more permission? In part two of Leslie Grandy's conversation with Mark Canlis, owner of Seattle's iconic Canlis restaurant, the discussion moves beyond hospitality into a bigger question: what happens to human connection, creativity, and emotional experience in a world increasingly shaped by technology? In part one, Leslie and Mark explored legacy, ritual, culture, and hospitality as invitation. In this continuation, they go deeper into the emotional work of leadership and service, and why deeply human experiences may become even more valuable as AI becomes more embedded in our daily lives. Mark does not see hospitality as performance. He sees it as relationship. That distinction changes everything. Together, Leslie and Mark explore: * Why service can be exhausting and restorative at the same time * How emotional labor becomes meaningful when it connects to purpose * Why guests often leave Canlis feeling "restored," even when they may not have the words to explain why * How fine dining safeguards important emotional moments, from anniversaries to last meals with loved ones * Why authentic connection, craft, and presence cannot simply be automated away * How small business owners can build cultures where people bring their whole selves to work * Why leaders must model vulnerability before asking it of others * How play, creativity, and permission help people break free from organizational gravity Mark also offers a powerful challenge to leaders: stop asking employees to perform humanity from a script. Instead, create an environment where people are trusted, known, and invited to care from who they truly are. The conversation closes with a reflection on Creative Velocity and the conditions required for creativity to flourish at work. Leslie reframes velocity not as speed for speed's sake, but as momentum with direction: the ability to break free from the gravitational pull of fear, bias, control, and convention. Because creativity does not thrive in cultures where people are merely told what to do. It thrives where leaders lower the gravity. Where people feel safe enough to try, fail, ask, play, and bring forward what only they can see. And in a world where AI can automate more tasks, the most valuable experiences may be the ones that feel unmistakably human. Reflection question: Are you creating a workplace where people feel controlled into performance, or invited into their full humanity?

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