Where the Road Bends
FEB 10th, 2023 • 1 hour 4 minutes 58 seconds — — — — — Our fourth guest on WTRB is Andrea Breanna, openly transgender CEO and founder of RebelMouse and former CTO for Huffington Post. In this episode we cover: * What It’s Like To Live In Hiding * Valuing Honesty and Taking Risks * The Power Of Being Openly Vulnerable * The Advantages and Dangers of Being Visibly Trans * The Dynamic Complexity of Human Identity * Honoring Humanity In The Workplace References: Katia Verresen [https://www.kvaleadership.com/] Warren Buffett [https://www.google.com/search?q=warren+buffett&sxsrf=AJOqlzWmk-mV0qrkBan5UALuwRqCZDs0CQ%3A1678212940916&ei=TH8HZPTNN6Wl5NoPhYW94Ao&ved=0ahUKEwj0o82xtsr9AhWlElkFHYVCD6wQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=warren+buffett&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIECCMQJzIHCC4QsQMQQzIFCC4QkQIyBQgAEIAEMggIABCABBCxAzIFCAAQkQIyCwgAEIAEELEDEIMBMgUIABCRAjIICAAQgAQQsQMyCAgAEIAEELEDOgoIABBHENYEELADOgcIIxCxAhAnOggIABCxAxCRAjoNCAAQgAQQsQMQgwEQCjoKCAAQgAQQsQMQCjoMCAAQgAQQFBCHAhAKOgoIABCxAxCDARBDSgQIQRgAULYCWPEDYMIFaAFwAXgAgAFeiAHyAZIBATOYAQCgAQHIAQfAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp] Brene Brown [https://brenebrown.com/] Jonah Perretti [https://www.google.com/search?q=jonah+peretti&sxsrf=AJOqlzWyOLIGVaWrEK_qR2WsVRddFk_nhg%3A1678212970033&ei=an8HZKLBAZS05NoPzNWP-AQ&ved=0ahUKEwiinr6_tsr9AhUUGlkFHczqA08Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=jonah+peretti&gs_lcp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp] — — — — — — Listen now on Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/where-the-road-bends/id1666403538], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/2W7A2KytFrWQBOAtIcKP3B?si=0c4e5728e3a345bf&nd=1], Simplecast [https://where-the-road-bends.simplecast.com/]. To sign up for the newsletter and podcast visit https://www.wheretheroadbends.fm/ [https://www.wheretheroadbends.fm/] — Where to find Steve Schlafman: • Website: https://www.schlaf.co/ [https://www.schlaf.co/] • Twitter: @Schlaf [https://twitter.com/schlaf] • Facebook: Steve Schlafman [https://www.facebook.com/schlaf] • LinkedIn: Steve Schlafman [https://www.linkedin.com/in/schlaf/] — Where to find information on Andrea Breanna • Website: www.rebelmouse.com [http://www.rebelmouse.com] • Twitter: https://www.instagram.com/holly/@andreabreanany [https://twitter.com/AndreaBreannaNY/] LinkedIn: Andrea Breanna [https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreabreanna] Time Stamps: (00:00) Andrea Soundbite (00:22) Steve’s Introduction (00:50) Beginning of Interview (01:28) Who is Andrea Breanna? (02:08) What is RebelMouse? (02:58) Dedication When Starting a Company (03:20) Andrea’s Youth, Privacy, Gender Expression (06:32) What is a Transbian? Transbian Narrative and Marriage (08:18) The Internet as First Opportunity to Express Gender Fluidity (09:17) Paranoia about Transphobic Societal Gender Norms (10:46) Coming Out Later In Life (11:47) Signs That It Was Time to Come Out (14:47) Making Personal Happiness the Most Important KPI at RebelMouse (15:40) Taking The Risk, Valuing Honesty (16:26) What Living Dishonestly Feels Like (16:48) Real Dangers of Coming Out As Trans (17:47) Living As Narrative for Hope, Optimism and Success (18:22) Coming Out To Wife (21:52) Coming Out To The Rest Of The Family (23:25) Magical Feeling of Finally Overcoming Fear (23:53) Kids’ Natural Understanding of Personal Freedom (26:46) How Family Support Made A Difference (27:29) Trans Support Not Dependent on Political Leaning (28:08) What It’s Like Being Visibily Trans - Pros and Cons (30:47) Strength to Face Social Transphobia Comes From Support At Home (31:57) Power of Being Openly Vulnerable (33:43) Unexpected Reactions from Co-Workers (34:48) Rigid Perceptions of CEOs vs. Humanizing CEOs (38:11) The Beautiful Challenge of Breaking Roles To Honor Your Humanity (40:35) Inventing New Roles, Inspiring Ingenuity in Children (41:24) Workplaces that Allow Blurring Roles Are More Creative and Exciting (41:40) Clarity of Roles Is Also Important (42:17) Heaven Is When Work Makes You Happy (44:42) AI Revolution and Human Creativity (47:45) Accepting Personal Identity Impacts Identity of Others (49:03) Identity is Complex and Flexible (52:16) Being Brave and Positive During Life Shift (53:14) Have An Open Mind For Unexpected Support (54:30) Frustration With Politically Advocating Trans Issues (57:57) How Role As RebelMouse CEO Has Changed Over Time (1:00:24) How Being Openly Trans Has Improved The Company, Looking Forward (1:01:37) Being Human Means Being Creative (1:02:48) Where To Find Andrea’s Work Stay curious and keep exploring the winding road of life. 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