CHAOSScast

Episode 101: Inside CHAOSScast with your producers

Thank you to the folks at Sustain [https://sustainoss.org/] for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 101 In this episode of CHAOSScast, hosts Alice Sowerby, Harmony Elendu, and Dawn Foster provide an in-depth look at how the CHAOSScast podcast is produced. They share their backgrounds, discuss the importance of community participation, and elaborate on their process for selecting topics and guests. They also discuss the logistics and creative process behind producing the podcast, and the challenges of scheduling recordings and coordinating with guests from different time zones. The episode concludes with a call for community feedback and suggestions to improve the podcast. Press download now to hear more! [00:02:59] There’s a discussion on the history of CHAOSScast, with Dawn explaining how she revived the podcast after a period of inactivity. [00:03:55] Alice reflects on her invitation to join the podcast, her approach to managing her RSI, and her adaption to podcasting. [00:04:44] Harmony shares how he became involved with CHAOSScast, his initial experiences, and the development of the “20 Minutes of CHAOSS Africa” segment. [00:07:02] The hosts discuss the logistics and creative process behind producing the podcast, including selecting topics, and engaging with the community. Technical aspects of the podcast production are explained, such as recording, editing, and hosting tools and services used. [00:11:11] Dawn emphasizes the community-focused nature of their editing process, ensuring all participants are comfortable with the final product. [00:12:25] Alice, Dawn, and Harmony discuss cross-posting episodes from other podcasts and the criteria for selecting topics and guests. [00:16:42] They discuss challenges of maintaining a diverse and interesting guest list, and the importance of involving new voices in the podcast. Also, the logistical challenges of aligning guest schedules, especially considering different time zones and professional commitments. [00:20:06] The hosts encourage the community to suggest topics and promote the podcast to enhance reach and engagement. Ideas for improving accessibility to podcast content, such as curating themed collections of past episodes. [00:24:03] There’s suggestions for integrating episodes into other resources like guides and presentations to further enrich the community’s resources. [00:24:42] The episode wraps up with a call for feedback from listeners to continuously improve the podcast. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:25:14] Dawn’s pick is wandering around Christmas markets in Munich eating roasted chestnuts and drinking glühwein. * [00:26:10] Harmony’s pick is attending cultural activities of different cultures. * [00:27:06] Alice’s pick is sending photos of her vegetable box to the company that she orders from. Panelists: Alice Sowerby Harmony Elendu Dawn Foster Links: CHAOSS [https://chaoss.community/] CHAOSS Project X [https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en] CHAOSScast Podcast [https://podcast.chaoss.community/] podcast@chaoss.community [podcast@chaoss.community] Sustain Podcast [https://podcast.sustainoss.org/] Alice Sowerby Website [https://www.rosmarin.co.uk/] Harmony Elendu X [https://x.com/ogaharmony] Dawn Foster BlueSky [https://bsky.app/profile/geekygirldawn.bsky.social] Peachtree Sound [https://www.peachtreesound.com/] Glühwein (mulled wine) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulled_wine] OddBox vegetables [https://www.oddbox.co.uk/] Support CHAOSScast [https://opencollective.com/chaoss]

Episode 100: Celebrating 100 episodes of CHAOSScast!

Thank you to the folks at Sustain [https://sustainoss.org/] for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 100 In this special 100th episode of CHAOSScast, co-hosts Alice Sowerby and Harmony Elendu, along with a panel of eight past and current contributors, reflect on four and a half years of exploring open source community health. They discuss the evolution of CHAOSS, its impact on open-source sustainability, and the critical role it plays in the software supply chain security. The conversation also covers the challenges and future prospects of open source, emphasizing community collaboration, governance, and inclusivity. The episode concludes with each person sharing a single word that encapsulate the spirit of CHAOSS community. Press download to hear more! [00:01:02] Introduction of our eight guests. [00:03:05] Georg Link shares how the podcast began as a platform to amplify stories about open source community health. [00:07:57] Brian Proffitt reflects on how CHAOSS has evolved to address broader topics like sustainability and security within open source. [00:11:12] Divya Mohan discusses the growth and challenges of the CHAOSS Asian Chapter, including efforts to expand inclusivity across Asia. [00:14:14] Elizabeth Barron highlights emerging leaders and new initiatives line using UNSDG working group and Hacktoberfest projects. [00:16:58] Remy DeCausemaker emphasizes the importance of CHAOSS metrics in supporting open source governance and sustainability in the public sector. [00:19:15] Yehui Wang talks about his favorite metrics models. [00:20:51] Ruth Ikegah shares her journey in open source and the role CHAOSS Africa plays in fostering inclusivity and onboarding contributors. [00:25:43] Georg discusses the growing importance of community health in light of regulatory changes and security concerns. [00:31:07] Brian explains the governance structure and the role of the CHAOSS Board in supporting working groups. [00:33:52] The guests reflect on the inclusive and supportive culture of the CHAOSS Project. [00:44:33] Yehui and Sean highlight the accessible resources and welcoming environment for new contributors. [00:47:35] Everyone shares their hopes for the future, including tackling security challenges, fostering global chapters, and expanding impact. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:57:00] Alice’s word is nurturing. * [00:57:01] Brian’s word is knowledge. * [00:57:06] Elizabeth’s word is love. * [00:57:09] Divya’s word is collaboration. * [00:57:13] Georg’s word is metrics. * [00:57:18] Harmony’s word is perfect place. * [00:57:26] Remy’s word is continuity. * [00:57:29] Ruth’s word is value. * [00:57:35] Yehui’s word is warm. * [00:57:39] Sean’s word is karma. Panelists: Alice Sowerby Harmony Elendu Guests: Elizabeth Barron Remy DeCausemaker Sean Goggins Ruth Ikegah Georg Link Divya Mohan Brian Proffitt Yehui Wang Links: CHAOSS [https://chaoss.community/] CHAOSS Project X [https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en] CHAOSScast Podcast [https://podcast.chaoss.community/] podcast@chaoss.community [podcast@chaoss.community] Sustain [https://sustainoss.org/] Alfred P. Sloan Foundation [https://sloan.org/] Linode [https://www.linode.com/] University of Missouri [https://missouri.edu/] University of Nebraska Omaha [https://www.unomaha.edu/] Alice Sowerby LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alice-sowerby-ba692a13/?originalSubdomain=uk] Harmony Elendu LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/harmonyelendu/?originalSubdomain=ng] Elizabeth Barron LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethn/] Remy DeCausemaker LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/decause/] Sean Goggins LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/seangoggins/] Ruth Ikegah LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-ikegah/?originalSubdomain=ng] Georg Link LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/georglink/] Divya Mohan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/divya-mohan0209/] Brian Proffitt LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianproffitt/] Yehui Wang LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/yehuiwang/] CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 24: Starting a Metrics Company with Luis Cañas-Díaz [https://podcast.chaoss.community/24] Open Source Program Office at CMS (CMS.gov) [https://www.cms.gov/digital-service/open-source-program-office] Project Aspen [https://github.com/oss-aspen] Bitergia Blog [https://blog.bitergia.com/tag/chaoss/] CHAOSS metrix 8KNOT [https://metrix.chaoss.io/] CHAOSS-GitHub [https://github.com/chaoss] CHAOSS DEI Badging Initiative [https://badging.chaoss.community/] Peachtree Sound [https://www.peachtreesound.com/] Special Guests: Remy DeCausemaker and Yehui Wang. Support CHAOSScast [https://opencollective.com/chaoss]

Episode 99: Guest Episode - Re-licensing, forks, and community impact with Data in the Hallway

Thank you to the folks at Sustain [https://sustainoss.org/] for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast- Episode 99 Hosts: Ray Paik Daniël van Eeden Guests: Dawn Foster We’re taking a break this week so we’re very pleased to share instead an episode from our friends over at Data in the Hallway, hosted by Ray Paik and co-hosted by Daniël van Eeden. Their podcast dives deep into the fascinating world of database technology, open source innovation, and the incredible stories shaping global tech communities. In this episode, Ray and Daniël sit down with Dawn Foster, Director of Data Science at the CHAOSS Project, to explore the re-licensing of major open source projects—a significant trend over the past decade. Together, they unpack the ripple effects this has on community health, share advice for developers navigating Contributor License Agreements, and examine the financial and business implications of re-licensing. They also reflect on whether this trend is likely to continue in the years ahead. Throughout the episode, they reference some excellent resources, including case-study data from CHAOSS, guides on open source organizational dynamics, and financial analyses that add depth to the discussion. Links to these resources are in the show notes if you want to explore further. The case-study data: https://github.com/chaoss/wg-data-science/tree/main/dataset/license-changes/fork-case-study [https://github.com/chaoss/wg-data-science/tree/main/dataset/license-changes/fork-case-study] More details about the organizational dynamics in OSS: https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-organizational-participation/ [https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-organizational-participation/] Discussion on the topic by James Governor, Amanda Brock, and Dawn Foster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wliDVF3FpI0 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wliDVF3FpI0] Business implications/financial analysis: https://redmonk.com/rstephens/2024/08/26/software-licensing-changes-and-their-impact-on-financial-outcomes/ [https://redmonk.com/rstephens/2024/08/26/software-licensing-changes-and-their-impact-on-financial-outcomes/] Magic Roundabout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Hemel_Hempstead) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Hemel_Hempstead)] If you have any feedback or suggestions for episodes, you can email us at podcast@pingcap.com [podcast@pingcap.com]. ————————— About PingCAP and TiDB ————————— PingCAP is the creator of #TiDB, an advanced, #OpenSource, #DistributedSQL database with #MySQL compatibility. TiDB powers modern applications with a streamlined tech stack, elastic scaling, real-time analytics, and continuous access to data—all in a single database. ————————— Developer resources ————————— 💫TiDB Twitter: https://twitter.com/TiDB_Developer [https://twitter.com/TiDB_Developer] 💫Introducing TiDB: https://youtu.be/_QBrPBwFoWM [https://youtu.be/_QBrPBwFoWM] 💫Quick start with TiDB: https://docs.pingcap.com/tidb/stable/quick-start-with-tidb [https://docs.pingcap.com/tidb/stable/quick-start-with-tidb] 💫TiDB in #Kubernetes: https://docs.pingcap.com/tidb-in-kubernetes/stable [https://docs.pingcap.com/tidb-in-kubernetes/stable] ————————— Connect with PingCAP ————————— 🔹Twitter: https://twitter.com/PingCAP [https://twitter.com/PingCAP] 🔹LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/pingcap [https://linkedin.com/company/pingcap] 🔹Facebook: https://facebook.com/pingcap2015 [https://facebook.com/pingcap2015] 🔹Slack: https://slack.tidb.io/invite?team=tidb-community&channel=everyone&ref=pingcap [https://slack.tidb.io/invite?team=tidb-community&channel=everyone&ref=pingcap] 🔹GitHub: https://github.com/pingcap [https://github.com/pingcap] Links: CHAOSS [https://chaoss.community/] CHAOSS Project X [https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en] CHAOSScast Podcast [https://podcast.chaoss.community/] podcast@chaoss.community [podcast@chaoss.community] Dawn Foster X [https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en] Credits: * Edited by Paul M. Bahr at [Peachtree Sound] (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) [https://www.peachtreesound.com/] * Show notes by DeAnn Bahr [Peachtree Sound] (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) [https://www.peachtreesound.com/] Special Guests: Daniël van Eeden and Ray Paik. Support CHAOSScast [https://opencollective.com/chaoss]

Episode 98: Community building - the role of culture in OSS project health

Thank you to the folks at Sustain [https://sustainoss.org/] for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 98 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Harmony Elendu is joined by community experts Elizabeth Barron, Ibi (Fibi) Fiberesima, and Ana Jimenez to explore the vital role community culture plays in shaping the experience and productivity of contributors in open-source projects. They dive into the nuances of community management, from setting welcoming and inclusive cultures to recognizing diverse contributions that extend beyond code, and share their insights on building engaged communities, empowering contributors, and using feedback and data to measure community health and success. Press download now to hear more! [00:04:48] We start with Fibi defining community management as building and sustaining inclusive spaces based on principles like membership, influence, integration, and shared emotional connection. [00:05:50] Elizabeth describes how community culture is influenced by leadership, communication style, and project goals. [00:07:26] Ana emphasizes the importance of a clear onboarding process tailored to diverse contributors. [00:09:11] Fibi highlights the importance of welcoming members and creating a personalized experience for each contributor. [00:11:24] Elizabeth shares her approach to community management: creating safe, fun, and welcoming environments where people feel valued, and Ana discusses the value of understanding why members join communities to create better engagement. [00:15:54] The panelists discuss methods to maintain engagement, like recognizing member contributions and adapting community culture. Elizabeth highlights the importance of acknowledging contributions that don’t show up in code, like project management, design, and community engagement. [00:17:47] Ana shares insights on creating local community chapters, particularly for regions with unique cultural needs and Fibi explains the importance of giving members autonomy and opportunities for growth, helping build loyalty and satisfaction. [00:25:30] Harmony brings up measuring for community health which leads to a discussion on metrics for community health: participation rates, retention, and community surveys. Fibi outlines specific metrics used in different communities, from GitLab contributions to social media engagement. [00:32:23] Harmony suggests that members publicly identifying with a community is a positive indicator of community impact. [00:33:52] Fibi’s advice is to be patient, personalize engagement, and document successes, Ana’s advice is don’t put too much pressure on making everyone happy, and Elizabeth’s advice is to set boundaries and encourage a community-wide support system. [00:39:07] Ana, Fibi, and Elizabeth reflect on initiatives they’re proud of, from supporting diverse contributions to creating localized communities. Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:43:43] Harmony’s pick is it’s ok to leave social media and do something else. * [00:44:13] Elizabeth’s pick is watching “The Great British Baking Show.” * [00:44:57] Fibi’s pick is a defining quote that changed the way she view’s life: “You are in life to experience it and not to control it.” * [00:45:53] Ana’s pick is if you’re going to eat a meal, take your time and enjoy the meal tasting all the different meals. *Panelists: * Harmony Elendu Elizabeth Barron Ibi (Fibi) Fiberesima Ana Jimenez Links: CHAOSS [https://chaoss.community/] CHAOSS Project X [https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en] CHAOSScast Podcast [https://podcast.chaoss.community/] podcast@chaoss.community [podcast@chaoss.community] Elizabeth Barron LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethn/] Ibi Fiberesima Portfolio [https://fibi-portfolio.notion.site/Work-Portfolio-9c3694086b234a72aa461cb479abcdb6] Ana Jimenez Santamaria LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-jim%C3%A9nez-santamar%C3%ADa/] GNOME Africa [https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeAfrica] Outreachy [https://www.outreachy.org/] Community Squad Africa X [https://x.com/TheCMSquad] PHP Women [https://leanpub.com/causes/phpwomen] Developer Relations Foundation LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/devrel-foundation/] The Great British Baking Show-Netflix [https://www.netflix.com/title/80063224] Special Guests: Ibi Fiberesima and Ana Jimenez Santamaria. Support CHAOSScast [https://opencollective.com/chaoss]

Episode 97: Practitioner Guides: #4 Security

Thank you to the folks at Sustain [https://sustainoss.org/] for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 97 In this episode of CHAOSScast, Harmony Elendu hosts a discussion with Emily Fox from Red Hat and Dawn Foster, the Director of Data Science at CHAOSS. Today, they explore the new Security Practitioner Guide created to help maintainers, who may lack deep security backgrounds, get started with essential security practices. Emily and Dawn highlight actionable steps, key trends, and simplifications to adopt in maintaining a secure project. They also touch on challenges like vulnerability reporting and the importance of consistent monitoring and updating. Additionally, the guide's flexibility, allowing customization and improvement over time, and the significance of community support are emphasized. Press download now to hear more! [00:02:02] Dawn starts out with providing an overview of CHAOSS Project’s Practitioner Guides, which helps newcomers to open source understand key metrics and mentions the current focus on the Security Guide. [00:03:24] Dawn gives us an overview of the Security Practitioner Guide as she describes it as a starting point for maintainers, particularly those without a security background. [00:04:10] Emily emphasizes that many maintainers struggle with starting security practices and shares the two primary security focuses on open source: project security design and repository security. [00:05:38] Harmony notes the importance of project design and patterns, asking about security trends and considerations in open source projects. Dawn mentions the Libyears (dependency freshness) and Release Frequency as key security metrics, and Emily adds that OpenSSF best practices contribute to project quality and maturity. [00:08:32] Harmony asks for insights on how contributors can interpret these metrics. Emily suggests various resources and communities, such as CNCF’s tag-security, for maintainers looking to improve security. [00:11:39] Emily discusses common issues with vulnerability reporting and the importance of having a process in place, with community resources available for support. Dawn emphasizes the importance of having basic security policies in place early on in a project and suggests starting out with a simple security.md file to outline how to handle vulnerability reports. [00:15:47] Dawn suggests consulting the Practitioners Guide’s “Make Improvements” section, which included adding a security.md file and implementing automation to track outdated dependencies and Emily cautions that metrics are only as effective as their relevance, recommending incremental steps for improvement. [00:18:53] Dawn highlights the importance of the OpenSSF scorecard, which helps both maintainers and OSPOs assess project security. [00:20:29] Emily and Dawn simplify the Practitioner Guides into basic steps and Emily reiterates that projects should define their own security goals and commit to them for consistent improvements. [00:23:56] Harmony emphasizes the importance of documentation for continuity in project security and Dawn reminds us that the Practitioner Guides are MIT-licensed and customizable for different projects. [00:25:11] Dawn and Emily explain where you can ask questions or how to implement things in your project using the Practitioner’s Guide. Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:26:55] Dawn’s pick is 3D printing and learning how to design new things. * [00:28:02] Emily’s pick is taking a break from the internet and doing something outside. * [00:28:45] Harmony’s pick is creating personalized templates to help with document preparation and tasks. Panelists: Harmony Elendu Dawn Foster Guest: Emily Fox Links: CHAOSS [https://chaoss.community/] CHAOSS Project X [https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en] CHAOSScast Podcast [https://podcast.chaoss.community/] podcast@chaoss.community [podcast@chaoss.community] Harmony Elendu X [https://x.com/ogaharmony] Dawn Foster X [https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en] Emily Fox LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/themoxiefox/] CHAOSS Practitioner Guides [https://chaoss.community/about-chaoss-practitioner-guides/] CHAOSS Practitioner Guide: Security [https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-security/] Libyears [https://chaoss.community/kb/metric-libyears/#:%7E:text=Libyears%20measure%20the%20cumulative%20age,pre%2Drelease%20or%20draft%20versions.] Release Frequency [https://chaoss.community/kb/metric-release-frequency/#:%7E:text=A%20higher%20frequency%20of%20releases,release%20frequency%20is%20highly%20variable.] Cloud Native Contributors Security Guidelines for New Projects [https://contribute.cncf.io/maintainers/security/security-guidelines/?__hstc=14121576.4fb61b7546863875121fa3925ca0436f.1730700856190.1730700856190.1730744858650.2&__hssc=14121576.1.1730744858650&__hsfp=3331628428] GitHub Docs-Adding a security policy to your repository [https://contribute.cncf.io/maintainers/security/security-guidelines/?__hstc=14121576.4fb61b7546863875121fa3925ca0436f.1730700856190.1730700856190.1730744858650.2&__hssc=14121576.1.1730744858650&__hsfp=3331628428] OpenSSF Scorecard [https://scorecard.dev/] OpenSSF-Source Code Management Platform Configuration Best Practices [https://best.openssf.org/SCM-BestPractices/?__hstc=14121576.4fb61b7546863875121fa3925ca0436f.1730700856190.1730700856190.1730744858650.2&__hssc=14121576.1.1730744858650&__hsfp=3331628428] CNCF tag-security: Self-assessment [https://github.com/cncf/tag-security/blob/main/community/assessments/guide/self-assessment.md] CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 85: Introducing CHAOSS Practitioner Guides: #1 Responsiveness [https://podcast.chaoss.community/85] CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 88: Practitioner Guides: #2 Contributor Sustainability [https://podcast.chaoss.community/88] CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 89: Practitioner Guides: #3 Organizational Participation [https://podcast.chaoss.community/89] CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 93: Guest Episode-Sustain meets CHAOSScast to talk about Practitioner Guides [https://podcast.chaoss.community/93] Dawn Foster- Maker World [https://makerworld.com/en/@user_3491927221] Special Guest: Emily Fox. 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