No Cap by CRE Daily

Why This Distress Cycle Isn't the GFC w/ Värde Partners

Season 7, Episode 4: How does a firm managing $17 billion navigate global real estate through high interest rates and a "hope-driven" market? Today, we sit down with Tim Mooney, partner and global head of real estate and Jim Dunbar, partner and head of real estate lending at Värde Partners. They break down how Värde operates across the capital stack, from senior lending and structured credit to niche equity platforms in student housing and medical offices. Tim and Jim share how their "distress roots" from the GFC shaped their current strategy of building sector-specific operating platforms like Trimont. They explain why today’s cycle is a "slow trickle" compared to 2008, the reality of the upcoming maturity wall, and how they are synthetically creating mezzanine returns. Whether you’re curious about AI’s impact on real estate demand or looking for insights into international markets like India and Europe, this episode is a masterclass in institutional credit. Join us for an unfiltered look at the conviction and data-driven discipline required to manage a global alternative investment platform in today’s cycle. Shoutout to our sponsor, Henry AI. The fast track to investor-ready decks that actually stand out. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction to Värde Partners 05:58 – Tim Mooney and Jim Dunbar’s Backgrounds 10:05 – The Trimont Acquisition and Data Advantage 13:00 – Värde’s Current Strategy: Staying Senior in the Stack 15:51 – Case Study: Repurposing Distressed New York Assets 22:44 – Lessons from the GFC vs. Today’s "Hope-Driven" Market 30:50 – Middle Market Lending and Creating Synthetic Returns 34:26 – The Case for Medical Office and Student Housing Platforms 41:16 – AI Disruption and the Future of Productivity 45:15 – International Complexity: Lending in India and Europe For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

How ACRE Turned Workforce Housing Into an Investment Grade Asset Class w/ Michael Van Der Poel

Season 7, Episode 3: How did ACRE grow from a post-GFC workforce housing thesis into a global real estate investment firm? Today, we sit down with Michael Van Der Poel, Founding Partner at ACRE, to break down the strategy behind that rise. Michael shares how he spotted workforce housing before it became an institutional trade, and how ACRE built its early portfolio by buying distressed multifamily assets at deeply discounted prices. We also get into raising capital from Asia, building a vertically integrated platform, and expanding across both equity and credit strategies. Whether you’re interested in capital raising, private credit, or where real estate opportunity sits in today’s cycle, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we dive into the conviction, timing, and risk discipline that helped ACRE grow from a scrappy startup into an institutional investment platform. Shoutout to our sponsor, Henry AI. The fast track to investor-ready decks that actually stand out. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 02:17 – Michael Van Der Poel’s Background and Early Real Estate Career 06:55 – ACRE’s Workforce Housing Thesis After the GFC 09:56 – Raising the First Fund and Buying Distressed Multifamily 15:00 – Building ACRE’s Credit Platform 21:13 – Why ACRE Plays Across Equity, Credit, and Development 23:21 – Pricing Equity Risk and Finding Returns in Today’s Market 38:50 – Rental Housing, AI Disruption, and the Future of Jobs 41:03 – Where ACRE Sees Opportunity Right Now 46:19 – Multifamily Outlook and the Next Buying Window For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

Inside Equinox: The Real Estate Behind the Fitness Brand

Season 7, Episode 2: How did Equinox evolve from a single gym in New York to a global luxury lifestyle and hotel brand? Today, we sit down with Jeff Weinhaus, Co-President and Chief Development Officer at Equinox, to break down the incredible real estate strategy behind the fitness empire. Jeff shares the inside story of how a stubborn lease negotiation won over billionaire Stephen Ross, why Equinox builds gyms inside historic bank vaults and sugar factories, and the exact "70/30 Rule" they use to decide which cities get a location next. We also dive into the future of wellness, the shift from cardio to heavy strength training, and what it takes to double a luxury portfolio without losing the brand's soul. Whether you’re curious about the brand's pivot toward longevity and mental health or how they plan to double their portfolio without losing their edge, this episode is a must-listen for anyone in capital markets or real estate development. Join us as we dive deep into the disciplined growth and creative vision that transformed a local family business into a global luxury platform. Shoutout to our sponsor, Henry AI. The fast track to investor-ready decks that actually stand out. TOPICS 0:00 - Intro & Jeff Weinhaus’s Background 6:07 - The Columbus Circle Deal & Winning Over Stephen Ross 10:06 - Expanding Beyond NYC & The First LA Location 13:07 - Navigating the Pandemic & Automating the Gym 15:33 - The Blue-Collar Origin Story of a Luxury Brand 18:54 - Building Gyms in Bank Vaults & Sugar Factories 21:37 - The 70/30 Rule of Real Estate & Location Scouting 31:19 - Equinox Hotels & The Science of Perfect Sleep 39:13 - The Art of the Deal: Negotiating with Landlords 43:08 - Sunbelt Migration & Targeting Second-Tier Cities 48:08 - Why Gen Z is Spending Their Money on Equinox 54:05 - New Fitness Trends: Cold Plunges & Padel 1:00:13 - International Expansion: London & The Middle East 1:04:37 - The Future: How Equinox Plans to Double in Size For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

How Harbor Group International Manages $21 Billion Across Multifamily, Office & Credit

Season 7, Episode 1: Season 7 of the No Cap Podcast kicks off with a masterclass in global real estate investment and management. Jack and Alex sit down with Richard Litton, President of Harbor Group International, to explore how the firm scaled from a $1 billion management-focused company to a $21 billion powerhouse. Richard breaks down the creative evolution of Harbor’s strategy, detailing how they pivoted from secondary office markets to becoming the world's most active Freddie Mac buyers. From navigating the current wave of CRE debt maturities to exploring opportunistic plays in markets like Detroit and Cleveland, learn how these experts deploy capital at scale in a reset market. Whether you're looking at workforce housing or the resilience of Manhattan office credit, this episode is a must-listen for understanding today’s complex financing environment. Join us as we dive into the power of vertical integration and strategic risk-reward underwriting in the new era of real estate. Shoutout to our sponsor, Henry AI. The fast track to investor-ready decks that actually stand out. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 01:54 – From Corporate Law to Building a $21B Powerhouse 07:15 – Exiting Secondary Office Markets Before the GFC 10:55 – Launching the Credit Platform and Partnering with Freddie Mac 14:15 – Assessing Risk in a Saturated Private Credit Market 18:27 – Workforce Housing vs. Class A: Finding Value in Market Resets 23:14 – Navigating Sunbelt Supply and the Realities of Negative Leverage 28:37 – Manhattan Resilience and D.C. Credit Plays 34:58 – Betting on Detroit, Cleveland, and Norfolk 40:59 – Sourcing Deals in a Reset Environment For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

How Fifth Wall Conquered CRE’s Tech Resistance w/ CEO Brendan Wallace

Season 6, Episode 5: The No Cap Podcast continues with hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik diving into the high-stakes world of proptech with Brendan Wallace, co-founder and CEO of Fifth Wall. Managing billions for the world’s largest real estate owners, Wallace explains his transition from a New York real estate family to bridging the gap between massive physical assets and cutting-edge technology. The conversation breaks down why real estate has historically been a "luddite" industry and how Fifth Wall’s unique strategy, using major industry players as LPs, turned a "bug into a feature" for tech adoption. From backing unicorns like Procore and Open Door to the strategic acquisition of Industrious by CBRE, Wallace shares the inside track on what actually drives returns in the built environment. Wallace predicts a total revolution where venture firms don’t just build tools, they become the industry players themselves. If you want to know where real estate and AI are colliding, this is the episode to watch. Shoutout to our sponsor, Appfolio. The growth engine transforming how firms handle investor relations and distributions. TOPICS 00:00 – Intro to Brendan Wallace and Fifth Wall 01:28 – Career Origins: From Times Square to Goldman & Blackstone 09:12 – First Successes: Workday Acquisition and Founding Cabify 12:35 – Founding Fifth Wall: Filling the Proptech Gap 17:00 – Why Real Estate is a Historically "Luddite" Industry 19:27 – Winning Bets: Consumer Fintech, Procore, and Unicorns 24:43 – Industrious vs. WeWork: The Durable "Flag" Model 28:44 – The Future of Multifamily: Aspirational Brands like Sakra 33:54 – AI Revolution: Shifting to a "DIY" Internal Tech Model 42:58 – The Big Pivot: Why a Lack of Legacy Tech is now a Feature 50:15 – VC Evolution: Moving from Building Tools to the Industry Itself For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.