Nobody Should Believe Me

We're rereleasing an episode from our original coverage of the Kowalski case that was published on 11/7/2023. *** With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach. They analyze the dueling opening statements, consider what each side is likely to look for in jurors, and which of the charges—if any—might be most viable.   Andrea shares insights on the lawyers after watching their interactions in court. She also weighs in on the extensive medical testimony so far, including a major revelation about the origins of Maya's controversial CRPS diagnosis. We also share a chilling account of Maya’s ketamine coma that was shared in court via missives written by Beata herself.   As both sides begin their closing arguments Andrea weighs the merits of what each side has told the jury and considers what the ramifications of the imminent verdict might be.  *** To support the show, subscribe on ⁠Apple Podcast⁠ [https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme]s or go to ⁠Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe⁠ [http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.   Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: ⁠@andreadunlop⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop]  Buy Andrea’s ⁠books here⁠ [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI].  For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit ⁠MunchausenSupport.com⁠ [http://munchausensupport.com/]  Download the ⁠APSAC's practice guidelines here⁠ [https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf].  ***  Click ⁠here⁠ [https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/] to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

In part two of our series on the lawsuit against Rady Children’s Hospital in San Diego, Andrea and Dr. Bex continue unpacking the story of Madison Meyer, whose medical journey led to a separation from her parents. After video surveillance at Rady’s starts, a series of escalating concerns, reports to child protective services, and ultimately, a court order removing her from parental custody follows. Andrea and Dr. Bex examine how medical, legal, and child protection teams intersect in cases like this, and the ethics of covert surveillance. *Episode updated with a fact check* *** This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. *** Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: @secretdoctorbex [https://www.instagram.com/secretdoctorbex/] Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy [https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/].  Click here [https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/] to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Subscribe on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod] where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.  Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop [https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/] Buy Andrea's books here [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI].  For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com [https://www.munchausensupport.com/] The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here [https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

In the first part of our four part Case Files series diving into the upcoming lawsuit against Rady Children’s in San Diego, Andrea and Dr. Bex start with looking into preteen Madison Meyer’s string of diagnoses like Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, POTS, CRPS, and more. They break down what these conditions are and why they - coupled with Madison’s rapid decline - raised red flags.  *** This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. *** Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: @ [https://www.instagram.com/secretdoctorbex/]secretdoctorbex [https://www.instagram.com/secretdoctorbex/] Order Andrea's new book https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy [https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/].  Click https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/here [https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/] to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Subscribe on https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePodYouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod] where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.  Follow Andrea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/@andreadunlop [https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/] Buy Andrea's books https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPIhere [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI].  For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit https://www.munchausensupport.com/MunchausenSupport.com [https://www.munchausensupport.com/] The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdfhere [https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

In season 5, we shared a bit of Andrea’s conversation with her parents, and we’re releasing even more in this episode of case files. If you’ve been with us from the beginning, you’re familiar with Andrea’s sister's case. Today we hear from Megan and Andrea’s parents as they reflect on their experiences and share their hopes for their grandchildren.   *** Listen to the NSBM episodes about Megan:  Season 1 Episode 1 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sisters-introduction/id1615637188?i=1000582501783] Season 1 Episode 2 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/who-is-hope/id1615637188?i=1000582501645] Season 2 Episode 7 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s02-ep07-megan/id1615637188?i=1000621818389] Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ [https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/] View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ [https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/] Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/ [https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/] Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI] To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts]) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com [http://munchausensupport.com] The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf [https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

In this week’s episode of Case Files, we’re joined by Rachel Bernstein, a therapist specializing in cults and the host of the podcast IndoctriNation. Andrea and Rachel delve into the crossover between those in the sphere of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators and cults. Rachel talks about the complexity of cult dynamics, the emotional and psychological impacts on families, and the challenges faced by individuals trying to break free from manipulative environments. Andrea and Rachel touch on navigating relationships with abusive family members and the importance of community, safe spaces, and support. *** Listen to IndoctriNation: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/indoctrination/id1373939526 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/indoctrination/id1373939526] Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ [https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/] View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ [https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/] Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/ [https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/] Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI] To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts]) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com [http://munchausensupport.com] The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf [https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]