The Call to Harmony

Until It Becomes Conscious — we did the inner work live, and it got real

In this episode, Stan and Tucker open with a quote from Carl Jung: until the unconscious becomes conscious, it will direct our lives — and we'll call it fate. From there, they dig into what that actually looks like in practice. Somatic work means tuning into the body's raw physical sensations — tightness, heat, pressure, a knot in the gut — as a doorway into whatever's unresolved beneath the surface, rather than staying stuck in the stories we tell about why we feel that way. To bring the idea to life, Tucker invites a guest into the conversation: Claude, the AI, who guides him through a live, unscripted somatic session right on mic. What starts as quiet tension in his belly turns into a real-time exploration of resistance, control, and a part of him that's been working overtime since childhood. Stan sits in as witness, offering his own reflections on sensation, story, and the vulnerability of going this deep in front of an audience. It's a raw look at what this inner work actually sounds like when you stop talking about it and just do it. ------------------------------------------------------------ Information on Harmony Road Retreats can be found at: https://www.harmonyroadretreats.com/ At Harmony Road Retreats, we know the difficulty of faith journeys. They can shake our relationships, our sense of community, and our sense of hope in the future. We also know how valuable it is to have a safe space where you can explore your experience. We seek to create an atmosphere where both those who do and those who don’t participate in religion will find relevance, emotional safety, and peace. When we find harmony inside of us, we tap into wisdom and guidance that will help us navigate life’s most challenging situations, enabling us to make confident decisions from a place of peace.

S2 E8 Friend of the Devil: Pain, Forgiveness and the Loving Gaze

In this episode, Stan and Tucker sit down face to face with their friend Haymitch St. Stephen — artist, meditation guide, and author of Friend of the Devil. Haymitch shares how a devastating accident in high school shattered his simple view of the world, how losing close friends to suicide led him to ask a question he can't stop chewing on, and what he's learning about self-forgiveness, the loving gaze, and what it means to truly flourish. Together they explore how the same storytelling mind that makes us uniquely human can also undo us — and how dropping out of our heads and into our bodies, whether through art, dirt, or a single deep breath, can create the distance we need from the stories that run us. This is a conversation about pain, presence, and the courage to turn toward what hurts.

S2 E7 Inner Waves, Resistance, and the Freedom of the Watcher

What if every difficult feeling you've ever had was simply a wave that hadn't finished moving through you? In this episode, Stan and Tucker explore the wave-like nature of the inner world — every thought, emotion, and urge rising, peaking, and falling — and what happens when resistance turns the water of our experience into molasses or even ice. Stan shares a story of a wave that nearly broke his nervous system and what his older, wiser self would say to the version of him caught inside it. Together they trace a quiet freedom that becomes available when we learn to watch the waves rather than be tossed by them. Closes with a guided practice on resting in the witness.

S2 E6 Stepping Beyond Your Known World: The Unfolding Inner Life with Thomas McConkie

What happens when the God you thought you knew takes off the mask — and reveals something more expansive than you could have previously comprehended? In this episode, Stan and Tucker sit down with teacher, author, and developmental guide Thomas McConkie to explore the vast, sometimes terrifying landscape of the inner world. Thomas shares his own journey from leaving the faith of his childhood, to going all-in with Buddhist practice, to a profound shift in identity that opened his heart back toward Jesus and the faith of his youth with new eyes. Together they explore how spiritual growth unfolds developmentally, why the "no self" teaching isn't what most people think it is, and what it means when prayer stops working the way it used to. Thomas offers a beautiful framework — teacher, community, and personal practice — as the through line across all traditions, and closes with a guided visualization to help listeners connect with the spiritual resources already present in their lives. Whether you're in the middle of a faith crisis or simply hungry for what's next, this conversation is an invitation to trust the unfolding. More of what Thomas McConkie offers can be found at lowerlightswisdom.org Thomas Wirthin McConkie is the author of the following books: At One Ment: Embodying the Fullness of Human Divinity Navigating Mormon Faith Crisis: A Simple Developmental Map ------------------------------------------------------------ Information on Harmony Road Retreats can be found at: https://www.harmonyroadretreats.com/ At Harmony Road Retreats, we know the difficulty of faith journeys. They can shake our relationships, our sense of community, and our sense of hope in the future. We also know how valuable it is to have a safe space where you can explore your experience. We seek to create an atmosphere where both those who do and those who don’t participate in religion will find relevance, emotional safety, and peace. When we find harmony inside of us, we tap into wisdom and guidance that will help us navigate life’s most challenging situations, enabling us to make confident decisions from a place of peace.

S2 E5 The Frequency of Harmony

What if the most important shift in your life isn’t changing your circumstances—but changing your state? In this episode of The Call to Harmony, Tucker and Stan explore what it means to find and shift your “state of harmony”—the inner frequency that shapes how you experience everything from relationships to stress to the present moment itself. Most of us move through life assuming that what happens around us determines how we feel. But what if that’s only part of the story? What if we can learn to notice our current state—and gently shift it—without needing anything external to change? Through personal stories, spiritual insight, and real-time reflection, this conversation explores: * What it actually means to be in a “state of harmony” * How dissonance shows up in the body and mind * Why awareness is the first step to any meaningful shift * The idea that you may have more influence over your inner state than you think You’ll also be guided through a simple practice to help you notice your current state and experiment with shifting it through acceptance, presence, and openness. Because harmony isn’t something you achieve once and hold onto. It’s something you can return to—again and again—by learning to notice… and gently tune what’s already within you.