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Hi, I’m Chekii Harling, and welcome to After Party – the show where I interview sustainable brand founders in their natural habitats. In this episode I’m joined by the footwear designer, artist and upcycled trainer queen Helen Kirkum. Helen grew up in the South West of England, leaving to study for her BA in footwear at Northampton University, a course she discovered when visiting graduate fashion week. Having grasped the art of making shoes using traditional techniques, Helen enrolled on the MA Footwear course at the RCA, and worked at adidas for a year in Germany post graduating. A couturier of the feet, since 2016 Helen has been building her business centered around the 3 pillars of planet, process and play, cherishing imperfections and creating modern artifacts that are loved by sneaker heads and art collectors alike. Have you ever wondered what happens to your old shoes when you recycle them at a clothing bank? The lucky ones might make it to Helen’s studio, collaged into new footwear fabrics, a feat of design made possible by her studio’s relationship with the clothing charity traid. When it comes to Helen Kirkum’s approach to waste no sole is left unturned, and she has more recently been making new materials out of sneaker tongues and shoelaces. In 2021, she became a recipient of the British Fashion Council’s NEWGEN scheme, which supports new fashion talent through funding and bespoke mentoring. Her September 2022 presentation at London Fashion Week was poetically titled ‘Palimpest,’ meaning ‘something reused or altered but still bearing visible traces of its earlier form.’ Her work reminds us that second-hand materials are embedded with memories, mystery and unknown paths travelled. As her brand puts it: this is ‘History in Remaking.’ In 2024, the brand created pieces for adidas, was shortlisted for a British Fashion Award as Accessories Designer of the Year and was Birkenstock’s first artist in residence at their Shoreditch-based creative studio. When she isn’t saving odd shoes from landfill, Helen can be found running community workshops, making upcycled homes for the plants in her studio and being an all-round good egg. Welcome to the After Party, Helen Kirkum! You grew up in the South West of England. How do you think your upbringing has informed the way you create today? I wasn’t in a super creative town, so I think I had to find ways to express my creativity. I’ve always been a studious person, and always enjoyed doing well, I was head girl at school. I’ve always had this leadership geek thing, I like understanding how things are made. My dad was a design engineer and my mum made clothes when me and my sister were growing up, which we always had to model, she would sell them at craft fairs. I think I’ve always had this balance in the house between technical design and thrifty, crafty energy…there was always a sewing machine in the house. What did you make as a kid? We used to make perfumes out of rose petals and sell them to our neighbours for 20p. I was very arty, I liked to paint a lot. For my GCSEs me and a couple of my friends petitioned for the tutors to let us do an extra GCSE, so our teacher Mr Taylor, who I absolutely loved, taught an after-school resistant materials GCSE. That was the vibe of my childhood. I was doing CAD, and I made a 3D-printed whistle, and then in textiles I was making wall hangings. I always tried to push my creativity through as many different avenues as I could. You studied your BA at Northampton, a course that you discovered at Graduate Fashion Week? I did. And I’ve just become a Graduate Fashion Week ambassador, so it’s a nice full-circle moment. I stumbled across Northampton, which had a footwear course, I hadn’t even considered that shoes were something you could make. I just remember seeing these bronze brogues; they were so pointy and shiny, and encompassed everything that I’m interested in. It’s resistant materials, physics, maths, textiles, product design, and it’s art. So many things merged in a perfectly formed little object. How was Northampton? The city is the home of British footwear design. You had all these factories that were steeped in tradition and craftsmanship – Church’s factory, Cheaney’s and Greensons. A lot of footwear unis are closing their courses, which is really sad, and we are definitely losing the craftsmanship of footwear. So I do find it important to advocate for it. In Northampton, it was all about longevity of products and creating things that last out of good quality materials. The sneaker industry is all about newness, it’s fast-paced – how quickly can we churn through these products? There’s such a disconnect between the two industries for me. I’m interested in taking that idea of longevity and craftsmanship and putting that into the sneaker design world. Let’s have a look at one of your early sneakers… This was my final BA at Northampton, and I had the opportunity to work with the Grenson factory, which was awesome because I love seeing how things are made on a big scale. In 2014 there wasn’t really a boom in the sneaker industry and Grenson had made this Vibram sole. The welted stitch around the side is the technique used to combine the sole and the upper. It’s a more handcrafted approach. At the time I was using materials like reflective mesh and neoprene which were new for the factory. They kind of hated those materials. I also worked with the tannery in Northampton to create textures on the leather, which were handpainted. Even then, I was always interested in manipulating materials instead of just accepting them as they are. This combination of traditional techniques, like the tannery, with the modern twist of acrylic paint was quite symbolic of my practice. I was drawn to imperfection, the left and the right shoes are not the same. “This project was called ‘How to accidentally, on purpose, make a mess,’ That really sums up my ethos in life.” – Helen Kirkum How was Northampton in general? I loved being in a campus uni and having all those factories nearby with support from the industry was invaluable. I applied for and won the Footwear Student of the Year Award with this collection, that was my first real taste of something bigger than just being a good student at Northampton. What did you hope to get out of your MA at the RCA? A few students from the year above me had gone to the RCA, and I really respected their work. So, seeing them go inspired me to apply. Winning the Footwear Student of the Year award gave me the funding to do the MA, which was perfect timing. When I was at RCA, I had learned how to make shoes really well, but I wanted to figure out how to unmake them. A technician once told me, “You don’t want to make trainers; that’s not a real shoe.” That stuck with me. What defines a “real” shoe? Everyone’s wearing sneakers now, so it was an interesting tension. Shoes have a real purpose; they’re not just an accessory like other items of clothing. I started playing around with sneakers, deconstructing them because I didn’t know how they were made. Typically, you make a shoe from a flat pattern, but I was interested in whether I could start building it in 3D. Why make it flat when it’s a 3D object? For me, it’s about layering colour, texture, and shape. What about your materials? The materials I collect inform everything. Unlike typical shoe-making, where you pick a color and find the matching material, I look at what I have available and build based on what I find. This is an organic way of working, using the materials in an authentic way. Alongside the sneaker leathers, I work with things like sneaker tongues and laces that I pick up in recycling centres to create new fabrics from these waste streams. Here’s a bag we made from shoelaces. I started creating organic, sculptural shapes and wanted to explore how I could scale these techniques using post-consumer waste. That’s where we developed our collage sneaker leather, which we can cut to make shoes. What other waste streams are you working with? The lace waste stream, the sneaker tongues, and then we had a lot of hardware components which are really cool like this Air Max one, all made from virgin plastic. We developed these charm kits where you can basically jazz up your shoe without adding extra waste. That’s a good segway into your sourcing process. You work with TRAID and their single shoe bundles. At the RCA, I hijacked a textiles trip to the TRAID warehouse which is in Wembley. I was expecting they might have a few old shoes that I could just take back, but then when I got there they had mountains of single shoes, because if you donate your shoes and you don’t tie the laces together that’s where they end up. They had a lot of singles, and I thought ‘this is a raw material that I could utilize.’ We clean them, deconstruct everything down to its component pieces and then build the material. Were you shocked at the amount of waste there was? It was quite stark that this is just one warehouse in North London, and there are so many all over the UK, it was the realisation that we’re throwing a lot of stuff away. What advice would you give to people listening to this that want to recycle their shoes as ethically as possible? If you donate them to a charity shop, or a charity bin, definitely secure them together as a pair, but also only donate them if they’re actually good quality. The best thing you can do is repair and look after your shoes for as long as you can. A lot of local cobblers do sneaker repairs as well because they’ve realised it’s a big market. A lot of people don’t see the point in repairing things… It’s not our fault; it’s how society has made us care about fashion. It’s very fast-paced, it’s cheap, repairs can be expensive, and I think that buying good-quality products can also be expensive. We have been pushed into a system where it’s easier to throw something away than look after a product. We’ve got to encourage a new way of thinking. How do we consume things in a different way? How can we take ownership of the things that we own? What does your sourcing process look like now? traid is our main source for ready-to-wear. We also work with the Salvation Army and sometimes Royal Trinity Hospice. On the collaboration side of things, we’ll work with deadstock from brands – like ASICS – we worked with their faulty returns. We took the customer returns and deconstructed them, and then embellished them to make a new shoe. On the topic of big brands, you worked at Adidas for a year before starting your own brand It was an amazing experience being in-house at such a global brand and really understanding the scale of the industry. I went from being extremely artsy and faffing about with shoelaces at the Royal College of Art to this very structured way of working, but there was definitely something within me that felt like what I had started with my MA wasn’t finished. I said to myself I’d give it a year and see how it goes, and that was 9 years ago. What advice do you have for designers wanting to do something similar? There’s a lot of waste out there to use, so never be discouraged in thinking ‘it’s done.’ I think being curious and letting the material guide you, it doesn’t have to be perfect, just get started and let it evolve. Every year, I get a bit more confident with what I’m doing, but I don’t have all the answers. When I started my brand, I knew how to make things; I didn’t know how to run a business. I’ve made so many mistakes along the way, but it’s part of the process. “I don’t like the word sustainability, but in the [sustainable] fashion industry, we all have a common goal to save the planet. There’s less competition, and it feels more friendly.” – Helen Kirkum Let’s talk about this whole idea of past lives. Your September 2022 collection at London Fashion Week was titled ‘Pamlimpsest’ I first heard the word while studying at the RCA. One of the PHD students, Ellen, had a project around how shoes carry meaning and lives within them, and I thought that was so beautiful and really inspiring. I also discovered that palimpsest was an ancient scroll made of leather. You would write on the scroll, and then you’d leave it out in the sun for the sun to bleach the writing off before using it again. It would have all these layers of meaning and memories on the leather skin. Pamlimpsest has multiple meanings that resonated with me. It’s really poetic; it reminds me of the repair shop. With our bespoke sneakers, we often take people’s old shoes and redesign them. It’s incredibly emotional and personal because a customer might send us their wedding shoes, or their first-ever basketball shoes. We had a customer recently who gave us their tennis shoes that they’d won a competition in. Shoes take you on a physical journey throughout your life. “Shoes have such sentimental value…it’s beautiful that we can take all those memories and combine them back together.” – Helen Kirkum Tell us about your most recent adidas collaboration… This was a really cool project for me, particularly coming from working in-house at adidas. We put our own spin on a shoe they already produce called the Avryn, featuring deadstock adidas labels. The other cool thing we did was added this flash around the edge – this is something they would usually cut off in the factory with a sharp knife. I was in the adidas factory. The ladies in the factory were doing it so perfectly. When I said ‘can you do it a bit wonky,’ they were horrified! What do you love about things being slightly imperfect, slightly wonky? Imperfection is human. I think that sometimes with sneakers, especially when they are so shiny on the shelf, they are devoid of any act of making. If you’ve got stitches there and the left and right are different, it feels like a human touched it. “These days, everything is so cookie-cutter and processed. It’s nice to have something that’s a bit more personalised.” – Helen Kirkum Last year you were Birkenstock’s first artist-in-residence… I love Birkenstock because of the quality of materials, and they are all made in Europe; their factory is in Germany, so it was really exciting to investigate a different product. I did a lot of workshops down in their space in Shoreditch, and it was a nice opportunity to bring the community together. Let’s talk about what I’m wearing today… So, my good friend Kirsty Elles, her brand is just called Ells, and basically she made this jacket for us. It’s a workwear jacket made from upcycled sneakers, and even the arms are laced on with shoelaces. Tell us about the bags you recently developed? It’s a big bucket cross-body bag. We developed the material because it was one of our waste streams. A lot of leather shoes have a mesh tongue lining that we didn’t have a place for. We created a quilting technique and let the material inform the design. What would this work for? Something squishy, practical and comfy. On the soles of your shoes, you have an infographic… My thinking was, if you know absolutely nothing about the brand, and you pick this up on a shelf, how can you know something more? So the infographic goes through Wembley, where we collect the materials, then to North Greenwich to the studio and then to Porto, where our ready-to-wear shoes are made. It’s about connecting people closer to what they own. “Imperfection is human. When sneakers are so shiny on the shelf, they are devoid of any act of making.” – Helen Kirkum What’s the factory like? We have an incredible Family-run factory out there, and Diogo, who is our point of contact out there, is very considerate of what we do. The most important thing for us to do is to find good partners that respect our process and will give it a go because it’s complicated and we don’t have a big budget, so for a lot of factories, it’s a cold, hard no. I think when you find people who believe in the vision and can see the growth of the business, that’s been fundamental to us getting off the ground. What do you enjoy about teaching workshops? I think in our society, we don’t get that many opportunities to create something physical with our hands. I’m interested in helping people discover their creativity through different materials. I love teaching workshops; it’s one of our goals for the brand to have more workshops in the studio this year. When you were starting in this space, was there anyone that you really looked up to or who helped you on your journey? Christopher Raeburn was always on my moodboards when I was at uni; he was trailblazing this kind of upcycling movement long before anyone else and has been a really good support to me, you know, throughout my career, which I really appreciate. Orsola de Castro [https://orsola.substack.com] is also an incredible supporter of what I do. I think you find your tribe and people who understand what you’re trying to do, and you latch on to them for dear life. I do believe this industry can be supportive if you find the right people, and I know that people look up to me, so it’s how I can support the younger generation, too. And you’ve previously received support from the British Fashion Council’s NEWGEN scheme? The scheme supports new designers in the UK, and I was really fortunate to be awarded NEWGEN funding three years in a row. It helps you get on the London Fashion Week scene and be discovered by buyers and press. Last year, you were nominated for Accessories Designer of the Year at the British Fashion Awards. Congratulations! How was it? What did you wear? Well, actually, I was very stressed with what to wear! I’m not that good at looking smart, I’m quite a casual girly. Obviously, I was very excited to be nominated amongst some other amazing designers as well for Accessories Designer of the Year. Even though we didn’t win, it felt amazing to be on that global stage by creating a product in a completely different way, showcasing that it can be possible and that it can be scaled as well. I’m so very grateful for the opportunity to be shortlisted, and I wore a Ganni suit, which has been my go-to event outfit. Any picture of me that you’ll see on my Instagram, I’ve probably got that suit on. I was wearing it last night at the Graduate Fashion Week event. I will get good use out of this suit! I wore a corset top by Bethany Williams and my own shoes (obviously). Another full circle moment…I interviewed you for my magazine TRASHMag, and I asked you where you would like to be in 5 years’ time, this was about 5 years ago now! You said: “If I can continue to grow at the speed I am currently, to collaborate, work with and learn from as many people as possible, to get some shoes out there on people’s feet, and to deliver a message that goes deeper than one pair of shoes and to inspire some people to think differently about footwear and consumption, that’s all I can ask for.” How does it feel hearing that back? When you’re in it and you just keep going and going you don’t realise all the things that you’ve achieved. Creating the ready-to-wear sneakers came out of lockdown because that was the only chance I had to slow down and stop, that’s when we started creating our own line of products rather than always collaborating with brands. To have a ‘real’ shoe that people buy and own is very cool and I feel really proud of that. It’s nice to hear that back. To be honest, I think my answer would probably be the same now, yeah, for the next five exactly, just like, to just keep going. “In the early days I didn’t understand how to use my voice to create change in this industry but now I do.” – Helen Kirkum What advice would you give yourself 5 years ago? Have a day off! This industry can promote a very hardcore way of working, and I think do it at your own pace. There’s no rush to grow, no rush to create products, do things thoughtfully and trust your gut. There can be so much noise, people’s opinions on what to do, where to spend money, listen but reflect on it and see what really resonates with you and follow that path because at the end of the day, you are the one with the ideas and a creative conscience that’s driving it. People go so hard in this industry, and then they burn out, and that’s the end of their brand. Sometimes I have to remind myself, ‘No one forced me to do this; it was my idea.’ Remember the reasons you are doing it in the first place. I know there’s not an average day for a small business-owner, but what are you up to for the rest of the day? I usually come into the studio and cleanse the space with my Palo Santo incense to get some good energy in the space, get my coffee and get going. I always try to mix up my day with business admin and being creative. I actually rearranged the studio to move the machines into a more central place in the studio to remind me that making is the core of this studio. I think it’s very easy to spend the whole day on my laptop and then be like, Oh, whoops, I haven’t actually done anything creative all day. If in theory the world were to end tomorrow, what would you be wearing to the After Party? I would wear my Ganni suit because it is comfy as well. I think I have two modes, either the suit and my own trainers or a tracksuit. I’m quite a homebody, and I have my organic basics tracksuits, which I absolutely love, and my hair in a messy bun, just chill out and put a face pack on. *After the recording of this interview, Helen announced (late last year, after 9 years of Helen Kirkum’s Studio) she would be closing her brand to start a new chapter as Director of Materials within the Creative Direction team at adidas. Get full access to After Party at afterpartybychekiiharling.substack.com/subscribe [https://afterpartybychekiiharling.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]
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