Amped Podcast: The Evidence Talk
In this episode of the Amped Podcast, Marco Fontani, Forensics Director at Amped Software, and Martino Jerian, CEO and Founder of Amped Software, discuss why deepfake analysis cannot be reduced to a simple “real or fake” button. They explain the difference between deepfake detection and deepfake forensics, why confidence scores are often misunderstood, and why investigators, experts, and courts need a more rigorous and explainable methodology. The conversation covers how forensic analysis can combine detector outputs with metadata, compression traces, pixel statistics, geometry, shadows, perspective, reflections, and other visual clues to reach stronger conclusions. They also discuss the future of synthetic media, including better generators, the “liar’s dividend”, public distrust, and the risk of fake forensic claims being used as propaganda. Listen to this episode and drop a comment if you liked the conversation. Read the blog post about Deepfake Forensics [https://blog.ampedsoftware.com/2025/08/05/deepfake-forensics]. Chapters 00:00 Integrity over shortcuts 00:21 Why detection is oversimplified 02:45 Detection vs forensics 05:08 Beyond real or fake 07:33 Confidence scores 10:02 Don’t oversell tools 12:25 Where detectors help 14:52 Explainability in court 17:12 The liar’s dividend 19:34 Fake forensics as propaganda 21:38 A real forensic workflow 24:05 Source files and laundering 26:28 Creating credible AI images 26:55 Generators and misuse 28:59 Metadata and visual clues 31:23 Video frames as images 33:49 Compression analysis 36:15 Explaining confidence 38:42 Making findings clear 41:05 Final advice for analysts
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