Mike Laba & Chris Goddard, The Long Game

Andrew Oland, Mr. Moosehead

Most people in the beer business talk about legacy. Andrew Oland actually carries it. As the sixth-generation President and CEO of Moosehead Breweries [https://moosehead.ca/] - Canada's last major brewery still owned by Canadians - Andrew is the great-great-great-grandson of Susannah Oland, who started brewing on a family farm in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia in 1867, the same year Canada became a nation. Six generations, 158 years, two world wars, the Halifax Explosion, Prohibition, devastating fires, a cross-province relocation, and more offers to sell than most people will ever know about. The answer has always been the same: not for sale.  Troy [https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-burtch/]sits down with Andrew for a conversation about what it really means to steward something worth protecting. From growing up in the Oland household and working a Halifax shipyard before ever setting foot in the family business, to a Harvard MBA cold call that eventually landed Moosehead the Boston Beer import partnership in Canada - Andrew's path to the presidency was anything but a straight line. They get into the big decisions made on his watch: ditching bottles entirely for cans, the maple leaf tabs now quietly appearing on every Moosehead in the country, and the viral Presidential Pack that had Canada talking. And they go deeper - on the Ontario convenience store scramble that had Moosehead hiring 18 people in six weeks, the tax reality that makes beer far too expensive across this country, and what succession planning looks like when you're thinking in generations, not quarters.  What's in this episode:  * The Oland family origin story - Susannah, the Halifax Explosion, the move to Saint John, and how the brand got its name  * Working outside the business first, the road to the presidency, and the four-minute meeting that changed everything  * Bottles to cans - what the data showed and what Andrew says to the fans still mourning the green bottle  * Beer tax, industry unity, and what it will actually take to move government  * The Mascot Brewery acquisition in Vaughan and what's next for Moosehead in Ontario   Thank you for tuning into the #BetweenTwoFermenters podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on whichever platform you get your podcasts at and be sure to follow GreatLakesBeer [http://instagram.com/greatlakesbeer] on all social channels. greatlakesbeer.com. [http://greatlakesbeer.com/] Supporting local never tasted soooo good!   Hosted by Troy Burtch [https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-burtch/], Between Two Fermenters, a podcast brought to you by Toronto's Great Lakes Brewery [http://greatlakesbeer.com/] where craft beer and conversation collide - straight from the tanks to your ears.

Matt Tompkins & Adam Shier, True History Brewing

Some places earn their reputation one pint at a time, and True History Brewing on St. Clair West (Toronto) is exactly that kind of place. Co-founders Matt Tompkins and Adam Shier have quietly built one of the most singular brewery experiences in the city - rooted in German and Czech lager tradition, housed in a soaring former 1920s cinema and designed around one simple idea: make you want to stay for the “whole shift.” No gimmicks, no province-wide retail push. Just beautifully made pilsners, Helles, and lagers, and a space worth settling into.  In this one, Troy sits down with Matt and Adam for their first in-person meeting and gets into the full story - from high school friends to contract brewing at Junction Brewery, to building a taproom they designed themselves, wallpaper and all. They cover their lager philosophy, the glassware obsession, the evolution of their kitchen, and their honest take on what it actually takes to build something genuinely special in this city.   What's in this episode:  * How Matt went from film to beer via a Belgian brewing documentary, and how Adam quit private equity to home brew "Breaking Bad style"  * The contract brewing years at Junction Craft — what worked, what didn't, and why they eventually had to find their own space  * Finding the St. Clair West location, the hidden 20-foot ceiling discovery, and designing the space themselves  * Why Germany changed everything for Adam and how that shaped True History's identity  * Their lager philosophy — the diversity of styles, the obsession with quality, and why they think there's more variation in lager than IPA  * The glassware program and why they're not changing it anytime soon  * Handing off the kitchen and what Beisel's Viennese bistro food program has become  * Their candid take on the LCBO, expansion, and what's next for True History   Thank you for tuning into the #BetweenTwoFermenters podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on whichever platform you get your podcasts at and be sure to follow GreatLakesBeer [http://instagram.com/greatlakesbeer] on all social channels. greatlakesbeer.com. [http://greatlakesbeer.com/] Supporting local never tasted soooo good!   Hosted by Troy Burtch [https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-burtch/], Between Two Fermenters, a podcast brought to you by Toronto's Great Lakes Brewery [http://greatlakesbeer.com/] where craft beer and conversation collide - straight from the tanks to your ears.

Tash Sundup, Bryden’s on Bloor

Tash Sundup has been quietly running one of Toronto's best craft beer pubs for over 25 years, and nobody's ever really told his story. The visor-wearing, sandal-loving, pug-admiring owner of Bryden's on Bloor sits down with Troy to talk about how a philosophy major from York University accidentally became one of the most respected licensees in Ontario's craft beer community.   From macro taps and Moosehead-loyal regulars to 17 taps of rotating Ontario craft, Tash walks us through what it takes to build a true neighbourhood third place. They dig into managing beer reps, the craft beer transition from the licensee side, the infamous Saloon League road rash incident, the decor and vibe at the pub, and why GLB Premium Lager will always be "Horseshoe" at Bryden's.  What's in this episode:  * How a retired fireman convinced Tash to take over the pub  * The craft pivot: from Keith's, Coors, and Stella to 17 taps of local Ontario craft  * Tap selection philosophy, rep management, and why Guinness had to go  * What a couch meant to some regulars  * The importance of regulars and creating a place where people want to go  * Shared history with GLB: Lackey, industry holiday parties, and a lot of Sunnyside  Thank you for tuning into the #BetweenTwoFermenters podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on whichever platform you get your podcasts at and be sure to follow GreatLakesBeer [http://instagram.com/greatlakesbeer] on all social channels. greatlakesbeer.com. [http://greatlakesbeer.com/] Supporting local never tasted soooo good! Hosted by Troy Burtch [https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-burtch/], Between Two Fermenters, a podcast brought to you by Toronto's Great Lakes Brewery [http://greatlakesbeer.com/] where craft beer and conversation collide - straight from the tanks to your ears.

Dan Silva, The Glassman

Most people never think twice about the glass in their hand, or the one they're "taking" from their local pub. Dan Silva does - and then he shows up unannounced with 24 custom ones to prove it. In this episode of B2F, Troy sits down with Dan Silva, Co-Owner and VP of Sales & Procurement at Zenan Glass - Canada's largest glassware and ceramics decorator for the beverage and food service industry. Dan came up through nearly 11 years at PepsiCo before landing at Zenan in 2021, and the CPG discipline he brought with him shows. But what's really driven Zenan's growth under his watch isn't systems or scale - it's showing up. At trade shows, at taprooms, at anniversary parties and beer launches - just because - building relationships one pint at a time. Turning a supplier relationship into something breweries actually enjoy. It's the kind of unreasonable hospitality that sticks with you. Just ask Troy and the GLB team. What's in this episode: * How Dan and his partner Luke transformed Zenan from a simple transactional vendor to true industry partner * Why showing up - literally - has been their biggest growth driver * The full ordering experience: what happens when a brewery calls, from first conversation to finished glass * Serving everyone from multinational brewers to a two-person startup - and why small accounts are more fun * What breweries get wrong about glassware (and what the good ones get very right) * Glassware as a brand touchpoint: why the glass in a customer's hand is part of your marketing budget Thank you for tuning into the #BetweenTwoFermenters podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on whichever platform you get your podcasts at and be sure to follow GreatLakesBeer [http://instagram.com/greatlakesbeer] on all social channels. greatlakesbeer.com. [http://greatlakesbeer.com/] Supporting local never tasted soooo good!   Hosted by Troy Burtch [https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-burtch/], Between Two Fermenters, a podcast brought to you by Toronto's Great Lakes Brewery [http://greatlakesbeer.com/] where craft beer and conversation collide - straight from the tanks to your ears.

Mike Laba & Chris Goddard, The Long Game

In this episode, Troy sits down with Mike Laba and Chris Goddard - co-founders of Craft Brand Co., and the new owners of Blackburn Beer Company in Niagara Falls. Two of Ontario craft beer's most restless minds, Mike and Chris have spent the better part of two decades putting together two of the more interesting careers in the Canadian beer industry.  They get into their origin stories on opposite ends of the Ontario craft scene, the back-of-napkin business plan that became Craft Brand Co., the legendary Michigan road trip that made it real, and the Brunswick Bierworks chapter that helped reshape what co-production could look like in this province. And they talk about what's next - Blackburn Beer Company in Niagara Falls, and a vision that goes well beyond just making great beer.  What's in this episode:  * Mike and Chris's origin stories - from the taproom at Brick Brewery (Mike) and the Prince of Wales Theatre (Chris) to the forefront of Ontario craft  * How Craft Brand Co. was born, and the Michigan road trip that made it real  * The brands that worked, the ones that didn't, and what they learned from both  * Brunswick Bierworks - how it grew and why they moved on  * The leap to Blackburn Beer Company and the vision behind it  * What nearly 20 years of partnership actually looks like in practice