Beyond Israelism with Simone Zimmerman
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit zeteo.com [https://zeteo.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_7] In this latest episode of Beyond Israelism, Simone Zimmerman sits down with Yuli Novak, Executive Director of B’Tselem and one of the most uncompromising dissident voices within Israel. It’s a deeply honest and impactful conversation about political rupture, moral clarity, and the cost of telling the truth from inside a society that has become, in Yuli’s words, “completely genocidal.” Yuli reflects on her journey from an upbringing shaped by patriotism and belief in Israeli democracy to a painful reckoning with what she now calls an apartheid regime — and with the conditions that enabled mass complicity with genocide. Yuli revisits her years leading Breaking the Silence — a group of former Israeli soldiers that documented abuses under occupation — which became the target of an all-out smear campaign involving government officials, mainstream media, legal harassment, and infiltration by right-wing groups. That experience, chronicled in her memoir Who Do You Think You Are?, marked a turning point: the moment she realized she had become a dissident against the regime. Today, as head of B’Tselem, Yuli explains why the organization chose to name Israel’s actions in Gaza as genocide in its report ‘Our Genocide [https://www.btselem.org/publications/202507_our_genocide]’. If you enjoyed this conversation, here are some additional resources: Pre-order Yuli Novak’s memoir, ‘Who Do You Think You Are’ [https://shop.ayinpress.org/products/who-do-you-think-you-are-preorder?_gl=1*418xc7*_ga*NzIyMTczNDE1LjE3NjM0MTMzMTY.*_ga_VSERRBBT6X*czE3NjgzMjE1MjIkbzMkZzEkdDE3NjgzMjE1MjIkajYwJGwwJGgw]. Read B’Tselem’s report about the genocide in Gaza, '‘Our Genocide [https://www.btselem.org/publications/202507_our_genocide]’. Read B’Tselem’s report about Israel’s network of torture prisons, ‘Welcome to Hell [https://www.btselem.org/publications/202408_welcome_to_hell]’. Read B’Tselem’s report about Operation Protective Edge, ‘Whitewash protocol [https://www.btselem.org/publications/summaries/201609_whitewash_protocol]’. SUBSCRIBE TO ZETEO TO SUPPORT INDEPENDENT AND UNFILTERED JOURNALISM: https://zeteo.com/subscribe [https://zeteo.com/subscribe] Twitter: https://twitter.com/zeteo_news [https://twitter.com/zeteo_news] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zeteonews [https://www.instagram.com/zeteonews] TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zeteonews [https://www.tiktok.com/@zeteonews]
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