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Ken Graves and the Heart of Backcountry Trail Work

17 min · 29 de jun de 2025
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A LIFE IN THE SADDLE For nearly five decades, Ken Graves has ridden into the wilderness with horses at his side and purpose in his heart. As a seasoned horse packer on the Shasta-Trinity National Forest [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/category/forest-service/shasta-trinity-national-forest/], Ken has spent most of his career navigating the rugged beauty of the Yolla Bolly-Middle Eel Wildernes [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yolla_Bolly%E2%80%93Middle_Eel_Wilderness]s — hauling tools, gear, and stories into the backcountry. A CONVERSATION WITH KEN GRAVES In our latest podcast episode, we sit down with Ken to talk about his remarkable journey. He shares memories from a lifetime on the trail, reflections on the changing nature of public lands, and his commitment to training the next generation of packers — people who will carry on this vital, behind-the-scenes work that makes modern trail stewardship possible. THE BACKBONE OF BACKCOUNTRY WORK Horse packers like Ken are the unsung heroes of trail work. Machines aren't allowed in wilderness so it's the hoofbeats of mules and horses that bring in what’s needed to get the job done. Their contribution to trail conservation is quiet, powerful, and essential. HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED We invite you to listen in, be inspired by Ken’s story, and consider how you can support the trail — not just by hiking it, but by helping care for it. The Bigfoot Trail Alliance offers opportunities for all skill levels to get involved, whether on remote volunteer vacations deep in the Klamath Mountains or weekend work trips near the trailhead. Every hand, hoof, and heart counts. Listen to the episode and learn more at bigfoottrail.org/podcast [https://bigfoottrail.org/podcast] Sign up to volunteer at bigfoottrail.org/volunteer [https://bigfoottrail.org/volunteer]

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Stories from the Next Generation of Klamath Mountains Stewards

The Klamath Mountains are shaped by movement — rivers carving canyons, fire renewing forests, salmon returning upstream, and people traveling trails that connect communities across Northwest California. Now, a new generation is stepping onto those trails. The Klamath Mountain Workforce Training Network [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/youth-stewardship/workforce-training/], is a regional collaborative helping young people gain hands-on experience in trail stewardship, ecological restoration, outdoor leadership, and conservation-based career pathways. Through conversations recorded in the field and beside wild rivers, this podcast shares the voices of youth crews and mentors working together to care for the landscapes of the Klamath Mountains. The network is powered through collaboration between the Bigfoot Trail Alliance, Ascend Wilderness Experience, Scott River Watershed Council, Salmon River Restoration Council, Trinity Together, The Watershed Research and Training Center, Trinity County Resource Conservation District, and regional Tribal governments and youth leaders. Funding support for this work comes from the SH Cowell Foundation, Humboldt Area Foundation’s Klamath River Fund, and Redding Rancheria. Whether you are interested in stewardship, restoration, public lands, youth empowerment, or simply the stories that emerge when people spend meaningful time outdoors, we invite you to follow along. This is more than workforce training. It is about building connection, resilience, skills, and belonging through work rooted in the land itself. TRANSCRIPT OVERVIEW The Bigfoot Trail Tales podcast explores the Klamath Mountain Workforce Training Network, which unites youth, nonprofits, Tribes, and conservation groups to train the next generation of land stewards. The program focuses on trail restoration, wilderness stewardship, and ecological monitoring. Key speakers include Mike Splain, who hopes students gain life skills and tools for environmental improvement; Lori Lyn Acosta, who highlights fire suppression and climate change impacts; Aaron Joseph Martinez, who emphasizes youth collaboration and fun; and Dan Scollon, who discusses the importance of GIS in data management. The program aims to build confidence, resilience, and practical skills in young people, fostering a connection to community and public lands. OUTLINE KLAMATH MOUNTAIN WORKFORCE TRAINING NETWORK OVERVIEW * Michael Kauffmann introduces Bigfoot Trail Tales, focusing on landscapes, people, and stories in Northwest California. * The Klamath Mountain Workforce Training Network brings together various stakeholders to train the next generation of land stewards. * The program focuses on trail restoration, wilderness stewardship, ecological monitoring, watershed recovery, fire ecology, and outdoor leadership. * The goal is to build confidence, resilience, practical skills, and pathways towards meaningful careers rooted in stewardship. MIKE SPLAIN'S VISION FOR STUDENTS * Mike Splain, Development Director and Program Manager, hopes students gain life skills and tools to improve the Klamath Mountains region. * He emphasizes the importance of students being able to make their communities better than they found them. * The program aims to prepare students for future careers, whether they stay in the region or pursue higher education. LORI LYNN ACOSTA'S PERSPECTIVE ON ECOSYSTEM CHALLENGES * Laura Lynn Acosta, a botany student from Cal Poly Humboldt, discusses the most pressing challenges facing the Klamath ecosystem. * She highlights the negative impacts of fire suppression and climate change on ecosystems and biodiversity. * The conversation touches on the importance of understanding these challenges to address them effectively. AARON JOSEPH MARTINEZ'S ROLE AND LEARNINGS * Aaron Joseph Martinez, a facilitator with Trinity Together, engages youth in natural resource goals and community awareness. * He learns from youth about finding joy in simple activities and their ability to collaborate and solve problems. * The program helps youth find like-minded individuals and pursue their goals together. BRAYLON EVANS' UNEXPECTED LEARNING * Braylon Evans shares an unexpected learning from a talk with a fisheries biologist from the Karuk Tribe about fish migration patterns. * He learns about the genetic traits affecting fish migration and the impact of crossbreeding on fish populations. * The conversation highlights the importance of understanding natural processes and their implications. DAN SCOLLON'S HOPE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION * Dan Scollon, a geographer and educator, finds hope in young minds engaged in learning about the natural environment. * He discusses the connection between fieldwork and GIS (Geographic Information System) data management. * The program aims to inspire students to pursue careers in resource management and data analysis. EUGENE COLEMAN'S VISION FOR HUMAN INTERACTION WITH THE LAND * Eugene Coleman emphasizes the need for more human interaction with the land to sustain it. * He believes involving more youth and demonstrating the benefits of land stewardship is crucial. * The conversation touches on the importance of advertising and making land stewardship programs more accessible and enjoyable. JESSICA HANSCOM'S TEACHING APPROACH * Jessica Hanscom, from the Salmon River Restoration Council, connects teaching with both head and heart. * She focuses on helping students understand the meaningful aspects of their work and the reasons behind their activities. * The approach aims to foster a deeper connection between students and the natural environment. LEROY CONWAY'S EXPERIENCE AND STORY * Leroy Conway, from McLeod, California, shares his experience and the friends he made during the program. * He enjoys meeting people with similar interests in geology, science, and outdoor activities. * The conversation highlights the importance of community and shared experiences in land stewardship. SURVEY TECHNIQUES AND FINAL THOUGHTS * The group discusses different survey techniques for electrofishing and the importance of being careful with mud. * The conversation emphasizes the practical aspects of fieldwork and the importance of data collection. * The program aims to inspire students to pursue careers in natural resource management and conservation. CLOSING REMARKS AND ACKNOWLEDGMENTS * Michael Kauffmann thanks listeners for joining Bigfoot Trail Tales. * The Klamath Mountain Workforce Training Network is supported by various funding sources and partners. * The program aims to build the next generation of land stewards through educational and recreational opportunities.

28 de may de 202614 min
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Honoring Our 2025 Volunteer of the Year, Dr. Brad Marston

Some people meet the Klamath Mountains only once or twice in their lives. Others feel the call so strongly that it becomes a kind of compass. Dr. Brad Marston [https://sites.brown.edu/bradmarston/] — physicist, professor at Brown University, and our 2025 Volunteer of the Year [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/category/support-the-trail/volunteer-of-the-year/] — is one of those people whose life keeps bending back toward this rugged, rain-washed country. In this episode of Bigfoot Trail Tales [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/podcasts/bigfoot-trail-tales/], we sit down with Brad to explore the winding path that brought him from the world of theoretical physics to the deep canyons, marble caverns, and trail corridors of the Klamath Range. Brad talks about his early spark: a geology book that nudged him west in 1985, turning curiosity into a lifelong connection. From that first backpack in the Salmon Mountains to long days of trail work in the Yolla Bollys, he’s carried a scientist’s eye and a trail worker’s heart. Over the years, Brad has blended both worlds with clarity and wonder. He speaks about the therapy of swinging tools, the joy of wandering off-trail to discover rare plants on Marble Mountain, and the strange beauty of places like the Yellow Bullies where fire, time, and limestone shape whole stories in stone. He’s even woven the mountains into his academic life, sharing how limestone dissolution in the Marbles pulls carbon from the atmosphere — a quiet process of healing hidden inside the range. Brad also reminds us why long-distance trails matter. They knit ecosystems together. They help wildlife move. They help people understand change, especially in a time when fire is rewriting the map. As he points out, more than half of the Bigfoot Trail has burned since 2015, a living lesson in resilience and transformation. And behind all of it is a simple truth: trail work is a form of care. It’s physical, grounding, mindful, and joyful — a way of tending the land that has given him so much. As Brad looks toward retirement, he and his wife hope to move to Northwest California to be closer to the mountains that have shaped him. We could not imagine a more fitting homecoming. Join us for this conversation — a blend of science, story, stewardship, and the steady pull of a landscape powerful enough to reroute a life’s trajectory. TRANSCRIPT SUMMARY Brad Marston, the 2025 Volunteer of the Year, discussed his extensive experience with trail stewardship and his deep connection to the Klamath Mountains. He shared his journey from a physicist to a trail enthusiast, inspired by a book on California geology. Brad highlighted his work with the Bigfoot Trail Alliance, including a memorable trip in the Yellow Bullies and his passion for exploring Marble Mountain. He emphasized the therapeutic benefits of trail work and the importance of long-distance trails for public climate awareness. Brad also expressed his interest in moving to Northwest California to be closer to the Klamath Mountains and continue his trail work. INTRODUCTION TO THE PODCAST * Bigfoot Trail Alliance congratulates Brad Marston on being the 2025 Volunteer of the Year and thanks him for participating in the podcast. * Brad shares his background as a physicist and how his scientific mindset shapes his thinking about landscapes and ecosystems. * Brad recounts his first backpack trip to the Klamath mountains in 1985, inspired by a book on California geology, and his subsequent interest in the area's geology and ecology. TRAIL STEWARDSHIP AND MINDFULNESS * Brad discusses his early trail work experiences as a Boy Scout and with the Sierra Club, which sparked his interest in trail stewardship. * He describes trail work as therapeutic, providing a mental break from his demanding day-to-day work as a physicist. * Bigfoot Trail Alliance appreciates Brad's perspective on the mindfulness of trail work, noting its physical challenges and rewards. * Brad emphasizes the joy of exploring nature and remote areas during his trail work trips, highlighting the therapeutic aspects of being outdoors. FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH BIGFOOT TRAIL ALLIANCE * Brad recalls hearing about the Bigfoot Trail Alliance online and his desire to give back to the Klamath mountains region. * He shares his first trail work trip with the Bigfoot Trail Alliance, leading a group across the wilderness to a campsite near the north end of the Yellow Bullies. * Brad describes the deep wilderness and sense of mystery in the Yellow Bullies, despite its lack of Instagram-worthy landscapes. * Bigfoot Trail Alliance and Brad discuss the changes in the Yellow Bullies since their first visit, noting the positive impact of fires on the area's beauty. FAVORITE TRAIL WORK MOMENTS * Brad highlights exploring Marble Mountain during a day off, led by Bigfoot Trail Alliance, and discovering rare plants. * He explains how Marble Mountain's limestone dissolution process helps remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, a topic he now includes in his research talks. * Bigfoot Trail Alliance and Brad discuss the complexity and beauty of Marble Mountain, with its endless miles of caverns and diverse ecosystems. * Brad expresses his hope for the Bigfoot Trail to gain national recognition, similar to the Pacific Crest Trail and the Appalachian Trail, to encourage more exploration and support local communities. IMPACT OF LONG-DISTANCE TRAILS * Bigfoot Trail Alliance and Brad discuss the role of long-distance trails in public climate awareness and ecological literacy. * Brad emphasizes the importance of protecting trail corridors to link different ecosystems and allow animal migration. * He notes that hiking long-distance trails provides a firsthand experience of environmental changes, such as increased fire frequency due to climate change. * Bigfoot Trail Alliance shares a student's data showing that 50% of the Bigfoot Trail has been burned since 2015, highlighting the significant impact of fires on the trail. PASSION FOR THE PACIFIC CREST TRAIL * Brad shares his passion for the Pacific Crest Trail, inspired by hiking the John Muir Trail in 2013. * He describes the diversity of landscapes along the PCT, from the High Sierra to the Mojave Desert, and his enjoyment of hiking in various regions. * Brad mentions his goal of completing the PCT, with about 500 miles left in California, and his appreciation for the trail's beauty and challenges. * Bigfoot Trail Alliance and Brad discuss their favorite sections of the PCT, including the San Gabriels and the desert stretch, and Brad's hope for a reroute to the Tehachapi. FUTURE PLANS AND MOVE TO NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA * Brad and his wife are considering moving to Northwest California, drawn to the natural abundance, friendly people, and proximity to the Klamath mountains. * He plans to stay active with trail work and other activities as he moves into retirement. * Brad mentions his upcoming role as president of the American Physical Society, which will keep him busy before his move to Northwest California. * Bigfoot Trail Alliance expresses appreciation for Brad's contributions to the Bigfoot Trail Alliance and looks forward to future collaborations.

7 de nov de 202516 min
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Ken Graves and the Heart of Backcountry Trail Work

A LIFE IN THE SADDLE For nearly five decades, Ken Graves has ridden into the wilderness with horses at his side and purpose in his heart. As a seasoned horse packer on the Shasta-Trinity National Forest [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/category/forest-service/shasta-trinity-national-forest/], Ken has spent most of his career navigating the rugged beauty of the Yolla Bolly-Middle Eel Wildernes [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yolla_Bolly%E2%80%93Middle_Eel_Wilderness]s — hauling tools, gear, and stories into the backcountry. A CONVERSATION WITH KEN GRAVES In our latest podcast episode, we sit down with Ken to talk about his remarkable journey. He shares memories from a lifetime on the trail, reflections on the changing nature of public lands, and his commitment to training the next generation of packers — people who will carry on this vital, behind-the-scenes work that makes modern trail stewardship possible. THE BACKBONE OF BACKCOUNTRY WORK Horse packers like Ken are the unsung heroes of trail work. Machines aren't allowed in wilderness so it's the hoofbeats of mules and horses that bring in what’s needed to get the job done. Their contribution to trail conservation is quiet, powerful, and essential. HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED We invite you to listen in, be inspired by Ken’s story, and consider how you can support the trail — not just by hiking it, but by helping care for it. The Bigfoot Trail Alliance offers opportunities for all skill levels to get involved, whether on remote volunteer vacations deep in the Klamath Mountains or weekend work trips near the trailhead. Every hand, hoof, and heart counts. Listen to the episode and learn more at bigfoottrail.org/podcast [https://bigfoottrail.org/podcast] Sign up to volunteer at bigfoottrail.org/volunteer [https://bigfoottrail.org/volunteer]

29 de jun de 202517 min
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2024 Volunteers of the Year

CONGRATULATIONS TO SYLAS AND OLIVER! We are excited to announce that our 2024 Volunteers of the Year are Sylas Kauffmann and Oliver Bullwinkle. They each volunteered 118 hours doing trail work across two week-long trips. The first trip was into the Siskiyou Wilderness where they worked on the Bigfoot Trail from Poker Flat toward Young’s Valley. Their second trip of the summer was to the Russian Wilderness [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/2024/07/russian-wilderness-2024/] where they worked on five miles of the Pacific Crest Trail — after our Marble Mountain trip was rerouted due to the Shelly Fire. In this episode of the Bigfoot Trail Tales [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/podcasts/bigfoot-trail-tales/], proud dad Michael Kauffmann interview Sylas and Oliver about their adventures working and exploring along the Bigfoot Trail. They share tales of food, tools, and friends made along the way. Oliver Bullwinkle (left) and Sylas Kauffmann (right) enjoy a fine backcountry meal during a volunteer work trip in the summer of 2024. [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/20240708_011710218_iOS-1024x768.jpg]Oliver Bullwinkle (left) and Sylas Kauffmann (right) enjoy a fine backcountry meal during a volunteer work trip in the summer of 2024.

25 de nov de 202410 min
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Hiking and Volunteering with Eva Piontkowski

---------------------------------------- For this episode we spoke with Eva Pointkowski who solo hiked around 200 miles of the Bigfoot Trail this summer. Eva grew up in the San Francisco area and nurtured her love of the outdoors in the Sierra Nevada. On a hike in the Marble Mountain Wilderness last year she learned of the Bigfoot Trail when she met one of our Trail Crews. In June 2024 she set out to do the southern half of the trail from the Yolla Bollys to the Marble Mountains. On her trip she encountered California Conservation Corp crews out in the backcountry, overgrown sections of the trail, high river crossings, snow fields in the high mountains, and even a too close rattlesnake encounter. She also discusses conifer highlights and the impact of fires along the trail. Eva also came out in the fall to join on a volunteer [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/product/volunteer-with-the-bfta/] trail work trip on Wooley Creek. This particular trip was a 13 mile hike to camp with work being done beyond that. She discusses working with the tools and crosscut saws, and how much work goes into maintaining these trails. She wanted to give back and become a part of the “Bigfoot Family.” We are happy to have her as an addition to the family and thank her for bringing her passion and great attitude to the trail. [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/20241015_113220-1024x461.jpg]https://www.bigfoottrail.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/20241015_113220.jpgEva Piontkowski and Karen Orso working a cross-cut saw deep in the Marble Mountain Wilderness. [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/spotify.gif]https://open.spotify.com/show/4m0xbMNZmnH0fae73zWoPm [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/apple.gif]https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bigfoot-trail-tales/id1778300051 [https://www.bigfoottrail.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/amazon.gif]https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/dcdf4fe3-b503-4f9d-a295-b561656136cc/bigfoot-trail-tales

23 de nov de 202429 min