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Katarina Hapsari (Episode 2/2): PIK (Pantai Indah Kapuk), Engineering and Capitalizing a multi-billion-dollar, Future-Ready Urban Project near Jakarta, Indonesia

14 min · 7 de feb de 2026
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In Part 2 of this two-part episode of Scaling Capital, Jennifer continues her conversation with Katarina Hapsari, Founder & Managing Partner of Aurem International Assets. Katerina shares what it takes to deliver a city-scale development on coastal land, integrating urban planning, climate resilience, and smart infrastructure to sustain growth through 2100. The conversation breaks down the disciplines required to execute a project of this magnitude, from flood protection and utilities to engineering and environmental safeguards. They also unpack the $20B+ capital structure behind PIK, including self-funding, public-private partnerships, and private equity. PIK serves as a powerful case study for building resilient, future-ready cities in emerging markets. Music is Happy G by Mr Smith from the Free Music Archive, CC BY.

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episode Katarina Hapsari (Episode 2/2): PIK (Pantai Indah Kapuk), Engineering and Capitalizing a multi-billion-dollar, Future-Ready Urban Project near Jakarta, Indonesia artwork

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In Part 2 of this two-part episode of Scaling Capital, Jennifer continues her conversation with Katarina Hapsari, Founder & Managing Partner of Aurem International Assets. Katerina shares what it takes to deliver a city-scale development on coastal land, integrating urban planning, climate resilience, and smart infrastructure to sustain growth through 2100. The conversation breaks down the disciplines required to execute a project of this magnitude, from flood protection and utilities to engineering and environmental safeguards. They also unpack the $20B+ capital structure behind PIK, including self-funding, public-private partnerships, and private equity. PIK serves as a powerful case study for building resilient, future-ready cities in emerging markets. Music is Happy G by Mr Smith from the Free Music Archive, CC BY.

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In Part 1 of this two-part episode of Scaling Capital, Jennifer Robertson speaks with Katarina Hapsari, Founder and Managing Partner of Aureum International Assets. She discusses leading the development of one of Southeast Asia’s most ambitious mixed-use projects, PIK, a massive, world-class, multi-billion-dollar, waterfront city development near Jakarta, designated as a National Strategic Project. Katarina shares insights about managing and coordinating the development of a 6,000-hectare (14,000-acre), multi-billion-dollar community, designed as a true live-work-play environment. Together, they explore public-private partnerships, large-scale urban planning, integrated infrastructure, and the resulting social and economic benefits. A compelling conversation on leadership, placemaking, and executing real estate at the city scale. *Music is Happy G by Mr Smith from the Free Music Archive, CC BY.

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