36 | From Model to Movement: Reframing to Engage the Next Generation.

38 | Accountability, Strategy, Risk: Byron Enix on Getting Board Work Right

In this episode of Build Better Boards, host Richard Fagerlin talks with Byron Enix (retired President & CEO, American AgCredit) about what boards owe their organizations before, during, and after a CEO transition. * The three real jobs of a director: Accountability, strategy, and risk. Get those right and CEO selection becomes the natural outcome of good governance. * Build the playbook before you need it: Draft a CEO transition playbook long before it's needed, with clear expectations for the board, the selection committee, leadership, and any outside search firm. The firm works for you. * Keep the full board in the decision: A selection committee can run the process, but the full board needs to stay engaged enough to test the recommendation. The CEO also has a role to play in preparing the organization, within clear boundaries around confidentiality and influence. * Honoring tenure without losing honesty: Long-tenured CEOs deserve real respect for what they've built, and a board willing to have honest conversations about present performance and future needs. * Pay for performance, not for baseline: Big checks for big expectations make sense. Incentives layered on top of a CEO simply doing the job they were hired to do do not. Connect with Byron on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/byron-enix-2943b153/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/byron-enix-2943b153/]. Find show notes and more at buildbetterboards.com/podcast [buildbetterboards.com/podcast].

37 | CEO Succession: Six Reasons to Start Now (and Five Things in Your Way)

In this episode of Build Better Boards, hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin dig into CEO succession planning, using Egon Zehnder's article "CEO Succession Planning for Tomorrow's Success" [https://www.egonzehnder.com/what-we-do/ceo-successions/insights/ceo-succession-planning] as a launch point for what boards should actually be doing right now. * Succession is not search: Search is the moment you pick someone. Succession is everything that happens in the years before. Most boards collapse the two and start far too late. * The math is coming: In rural electric alone, roughly 500 of 900 CEOs will be eligible to retire in the next five years. One in three CEOs across sectors exit with little or no notice. If your board hasn't talked about this, that's the risk. * Six benefits of starting early: Risk mitigation, board alignment, development of internal candidates, honest assessment of external candidates, smoother transitions, and strategic continuity. Keri and Richard walk through each with examples from co-op boardrooms. * Five obstacles to name out loud: Delegating the process to an incumbent CEO with conflicting interests, starting too late, insufficient board exposure to internal candidates, bias toward external hires, and resistance to change when a popular CEO departs. * Say goodbye to the long goodbye: Richard pushes back on drawn-out transitions. Continuity matters. Endless overlap does not. The day you announce the new CEO is often the day they should be the CEO. * Responsible vs. accountable: The CEO is responsible for executing a leadership development strategy. The board is accountable for ensuring one exists. Keri frames this as part of a board's fiduciary duty. Find show notes and more at buildbetterboards.com/podcast [buildbetterboards.com/podcast].

36 | From Model to Movement: Reframing to Engage the Next Generation.

In this episode of Build Better Boards, host Dr. Keri Jacobs talks with Sylandi Brown (Manager of Communications and Administration, Middle Georgia EMC) about why the cooperative is better understood as a movement than a model, and what that shift means for how boards recruit, govern, and engage the next generation. * Movement, not model: A model is something you apply. A movement is something you participate in. Sylandi's framing treats the cooperative as a living thing that stretches and changes as membership changes. * The cooperative identity test: Before asking how to attract younger members, boards should ask whether the seven principles are visible in everyday practice, or whether they only show up on the wall. * Steward the seat: A director isn't occupying a seat for themselves. They're stewarding it for the membership and the future. That mindset shift changes how boards think about continuity, turnover, and pipeline. * Engagement beyond the board seat: Advisory councils, committees, and structured touchpoints give members a meaningful voice without forcing a binary choice between the annual meeting and running for election. That matters most for younger members who want to participate before they're ready to run. * Authenticity is the currency: Younger generations watch the gap between what an organization says and what it does. The co-op values align well with generational values on paper. They only matter if they're lived in leadership behavior and decision-making. Connect with Sylandi on LinkedIn or at www.sylandibrown.com [www.sylandibrown.com]. Find show notes and more at buildbetterboards.com/podcast [buildbetterboards.com/podcast].

35 | Managing vs. Governing Board Mindset

In this episode of Build Better Boards, Richard Fagerlin, Mitch Majeski, and Dr. Keri Jacobs dig into a question that shows up in boardrooms all the time: when is a board governing, and when is it slipping into management? Using a framework Keri has been sharing with boards, the conversation offers a practical way to assess where a board is spending its time and whether that time is being used in the highest-value way. * Keri makes the case that while boards may legally have the authority to manage a cooperative, that does not mean getting into the weeds is the best use of board time. * The conversation walks through five dimensions boards can use to assess themselves: where the board spends its time in meetings, where the board focuses, how decisions are made, how oversight is handled, and the culture or posture of the board. * One of the most helpful parts of the framework is the reminder to evaluate real meetings, not just general impressions. Looking at the last one to three board meetings gives directors something concrete to react to. * The goal is not to shut down discussion or force every board into the same model. It is to help boards notice where they may be spending too much energy on management-level operational detail and where they can strengthen strategy, accountability, and policy work. * This kind of assessment gets even more useful when CEOs or management teams weigh in, because they experience the board’s impact in real time and can often see patterns directors miss. You can access Keri's slides by emailing her at keri.jacobs@missouri.edu [keri.jacobs@missouri.edu]. Follow Build Better Boards on LinkedIn for updates. Find show notes and more at buildbetterboards.com/podcast [buildbetterboards.com/podcast].

34 | 5 Practices for Sustaining Momentum Between Board Meetings

In this episode of Build Better Boards, hosts Richard Fagerlin and Dr. Keri Jacobs explore how boards can maintain momentum between meetings instead of resetting progress each time they convene. They share five practical practices to help boards stay aligned, engaged, and proactive throughout the year. * Clear ownership after decisions ensures follow-through by defining what was decided, what success looks like, who is responsible, and when updates return to the board. * Intentional follow-up rhythms, including regular chair-CEO communication and structured committee updates, help maintain steady progress without overstepping. * Directors stay engaged between meetings by preparing early, reviewing materials thoughtfully, and developing strategic questions ahead of discussions. * Peer accountability reinforces board effectiveness by encouraging directors to uphold shared standards rather than relying solely on the chair. * Ongoing awareness of industry trends and external insights helps boards anticipate challenges and contribute more strategically in meetings. Follow Build Better Boards on LinkedIn for updates. Find show notes and more at buildbetterboards.com/podcast [buildbetterboards.com/podcast].