Building EO: Clean Beauty, Conscious Business & Evolving in the AI Era

Building EO: Clean Beauty, Conscious Business & Evolving in the AI Era

This week on CapLander, Jody and Morgan sit down with EO Products co-founder and co-CEO Susan Griffin-Black to talk about building one of the original natural personal care brands decades before “clean beauty” became mainstream. From launching EO in Marin County in 1995 to creating the massively successful Everyone line, Susan shares how intuition, authenticity, and long-term thinking helped grow the company into a nationally recognized brand found everywhere from Whole Foods to Target. The conversation dives into entrepreneurship, surviving the chaos of COVID demand spikes, navigating business alongside an ex-spouse and co-parent, and why human instinct still matters in the age of AI. Susan also reflects on leadership, aging, mentorship, motherhood, and the evolving balance between ambition and family life. Along the way, Jody and Morgan unpack everything from marriage and personal growth to “gentle hazing,” pizza ovens, black boots, and the challenge of staying grounded while the world races toward automation. It’s a candid, funny, and surprisingly personal conversation about business, reinvention, and what actually lasts.

The Squeeze: Building Businesses, Raising Families & Why Average Doesn’t Win

Morgan and Jody check in from the Blue Ridge Mountains and cover everything from airport travel and luxury stroller shopping to the changing future of startups, venture capital, and leadership. Along the way, they unpack why smaller companies are becoming more powerful, how AI is reshaping entrepreneurship, and why the next generation of founders will need grit, adaptability, and relentless focus to survive.

Craftsmanship, Entrepreneurship & Building Something That Lasts with David Stine & Stephanie Abbajay

In this episode of CapLander, Jody and Morgan discuss the spirit of entrepreneurship and leadership with David Stine and Stephanie Abbajay - while digging into the realities of what it's like working with your spouse. David shares how he left a successful law career and turned his woodworking hobby into a pursuit of excellence, becoming a featured exhibitor at the Architectural Digest Design Show for 13 years straight. From balancing risk and family to supporting each other through growth and uncertainty, this episode explores the human side of entrepreneurship - and what it really takes to build a business, one bench at a time.

The Paycheck Derby: How to Win Big

Morgan and Jody recap a work trip to Austin, Kentucky Derby upsets, The Devil Wears Prada, a The Wall Street Journal breakdown of high-earning women, and Belle Burden's memoir—on the surface, they don’t seem connected. But together, they point to one idea: the top 1% is built through accumulated steps, not isolated wins. We talk through how careers actually compound over time, and how the decisions you make along the way matter more than any single outcome. Outcomes are visible—but accumulation is what drives them.

Birkin > S&P 500? The Luxury Resale Game Explained

From a small-town gas station to the front lines of luxury resale, Ashley Maurice’s journey into fashion is anything but typical—and that’s exactly why her perspective cuts through the noise. In this CapLander episode, Ashley (Manager of Buying at The Vault Luxury Resale) breaks down what actually holds value in today’s resale market—and what doesn’t. From Hermès Birkins outperforming traditional investments to why Chanel’s black-and-gold classics dominate, this conversation goes beyond hype and into real-world buying behavior. The group digs into the surprising resurgence of brands like Coach, the rise of “dopamine dressing,” and the ongoing battle between quiet luxury and bold monograms. They also unpack the psychology behind why some items get flipped while others are held for years—and how trends cycle faster than ever. If you’ve ever wondered whether luxury goods are truly an investment—or just really expensive taste—this episode gives you the framework to think about it smarter. Because in resale, timing matters… but knowing what to buy matters more.