[S2E19] Healthcare Big Ideas
We Already Have a Framework That Could Fix Healthcare
Everyone complains about the healthcare system. Fewer people are willing to name what needs to change and how. This episode does both.
Vincent Catalano sits down with Peter Hayes, recently retired president and CEO of the Healthcare Purchaser Alliance of Maine and former Director of Associate Health and Wellness at Hannaford Supermarkets, and Lawrence Thompson, founder and CEO of Benefit Systems Inc. and a nearly five-decade veteran of the payer, TPA, and self-insurance industries, for a wide-ranging conversation on what it would actually take to fix American healthcare -- on the insurance side, the provider side, and the financing side.
The three cover a lot of ground: national licensing, association health plans, a Medicare-based national PPO, banning carrier ownership of providers, equal-nation drug pricing, hospital rate caps, the 340B federal drug program, broker compensation reform, and the administrative cost burden crushing physicians and hospitals alike. Larry drops data on what happens when providers are paid faster -- and how that alone could drive 30 to 35 percent discounts from physicians and similar reductions from hospitals. Peter shares a real story from his days managing Hannaford's self-insured plan that turned a million-dollar failure into a Wall Street Journal feature -- and sparked a national conversation on quality-driven benefit design.
And when Vincent asks about brokers, Larry doesn't pull the punch. Thirty-eight years after writing a paper on it, he makes the case again: healthcare brokers should be paid like every other professional advisor -- flat fee, full stop.
The framework exists. The question is whether anyone has the will to use it.
About Our Guests
Peter Hayes recently retired as president and CEO of the Healthcare Purchaser Alliance of Maine, and is formerly a principal of Healthcare Solutions and Director of Associate Health and Wellness at Hannaford Supermarkets. Recognized as a national thought leader in strategic benefit design for more than 25 years, he has been appointed by two different Maine governors to serve on healthcare reform commissions and is a co-founder of the Maine Health Management Coalition. He has served on advisory boards for Express Scripts, DFINITY Health, and others, and has been involved in national organizations including the Center for Health Innovation, Care Focused Purchasing, and Leapfrog.
Lawrence Thompson is the founder and CEO of Benefit Systems Inc., a healthcare consulting and solutions firm he launched in 2002. With nearly five decades in the industry, his career spans payer, TPA, reinsurance, stop-loss, and consulting -- including serving as President of Pomco, Inc., one of the largest independent TPAs in the US (which he sold to UnitedHealth in 2017), Chief Commercial Officer of HealthNow New York overseeing $2.8 billion in annual P&L, and Chief Strategy and Revenue Officer at Advanced Medical Pricing Solutions. He founded and grew his own TPA in California and Arizona to 120,000 members before selling it in 2001, and has been a licensed broker since 1978. He is a past Chairman of the Self Insurance Institute of America and spent more than 20 years lobbying on Capitol Hill for the self-insurance industry.
About Your Host
Vincent Catalano is the CEO and Founder of CLEAR Healthcare Solutions and host of the CLEARly Beneficial Podcast. With more than 23 years of experience in employee benefits and healthcare consulting, Vincent has worked for two of the top 10 international brokerages, served clients ranging from 2 to 7,500 employees, served on insurance carrier advisory councils, and built relationships across health systems, health insurers, medical groups, TPAs, and brokerages. In recent years he has become a dedicated student of healthcare system reform, point solution integration, alternative funding models, and medical and pharmacy cost transparency. He holds an MBA from the UC Davis Graduate School of Management and a BA from Skidmore College. He launched the CLEARly Beneficial Podcast to bring the expertise of his network to brokers, HR professionals, employer decision-makers, and anyone navigating a system that too often works against the people it is supposed to serve.
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