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COO vs. Clinic Manager: How to Know Which One Your Health Center Actually Needs Hosted by: Brent Stutzman, TheraSaaS Podcast | Guest: Jill Steeley, FQHC Consultant & Executive Coach ―――――――――――――――――――― Episode Overview In this crossover episode, Jill joins Brent Stutzman on the TheraSaaS podcast for a practical conversation about one of the most consequential growing-pain decisions a practice or health center faces: do you need a clinic manager or a chief operating officer? Drawing on her own experience inheriting a clinic-manager-run health center as a brand-new CEO, Jill unpacks the real difference between the two roles, the warning signs that you’ve outgrown day-to-day firefighting, the true cost of the wrong hire, and why a fractional COO can be the lowest-risk way to test the water. ―――――――――――――――――――― In This Episode, You’ll Learn: • The real difference between a clinic manager and a COO—and why conflating them keeps leaders stuck in the weeds • Why promoting your best clinician into a management role so often backfires • How to diagnose your actual pain points before you write a single job description • The “you might need a COO if…” warning signs: staff turnover, operational chaos, stalled patient growth, and no systems • Why the wrong hire at this level is so expensive—emotionally and financially • What to actually look for in a COO, and how to vet for outcomes and culture fit, not just a clean reference check • How a fractional COO works—and why it’s a scalable, lower-risk way to get started • Why “even imperfect action is action” when burnout is the real symptom ―――――――――――――――――――― Key Takeaways “Culture eats strategy for lunch any time of the day.” “Even imperfect action is action.” “Your burnout is a big symptom of doing everything and not being willing to give up some of that control.” ―――――――――――――――――――― Mentioned in This Episode • http://www.fqhc-ceo.com/CEO Connect Bootcamp [http://www.fqhc-ceo.com/] — Jill’s program for health center and practice leaders on attracting patients, building systems, and leading strategically • Healthcare Leadership Style Quiz — Jill’s free quiz to identify your leadership pattern | http://www.jillsteeley.com/leadershipquizjillsteeley.com/leadershipquiz [http://www.jillsteeley.com/leadershipquiz] • https://www.jillsteeley.com/podcasts/community-health-collective/episodes/2149198276Community Health Collective episode [https://www.jillsteeley.com/podcasts/community-health-collective/episodes/2149198276] on fractional executives • http://www.jillsteeley.com/jillsteeley.com [http://www.jillsteeley.com/] — Schedule a call or find free resources | jill@jillsteeley.com ―――――――――――――――――――― Connect & Subscribe If this episode resonated with you, please take a moment to: • Leave a rating and review • Subscribe so you never miss an episode • Share with a fellow health center leader who needs to hear this message Have feedback or a topic request? Jill would love to hear from you!
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