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Fraud doesn’t hide because it’s clever. It hides because our models keep looking for “normal” instead of interrogating “wrong.” That’s where this conversation with Dr. Chase Cunningham (known to many as “Dr. Zero Trust”) gets practical fast. We talk about his recent patent work using deterministic math to surface fraud inside huge systems, and why the usual data science playbook of finding enough “good” data to train on can be a trap when the real signal is buried in what shouldn’t be happening at all. From there, we zoom out to the AI toolchain most teams are using today. LLMs like Claude and ChatGPT can be powerful, but they’re often optimized to produce the next best-looking answer, not the most adversarial truth. We dig into how to “turn the system on its head” with better prompting, correlation thinking, and agentic AI swarms that behave like a room full of specialists attacking one problem from different angles. If you’re wondering what the next step is beyond using AI for emails, this is the blueprint: orchestration, role clarity, and tight feedback loops. Then we hit the elephant in the room: AI security. Shadow AI, sensitive data leakage, and agents that can accidentally expose HR documents or internal secrets all come back to fundamentals like identity and access management, least privilege, micro-segmentation, and non-human identities. Zero trust principles still apply, but the speed and scale of agentic systems make every gap matter more. We close with what keeps Chase up at night, including deepfakes and the erosion of shared reality, plus where to follow for more. Subscribe, share this with a teammate who’s rolling out AI, and leave a review if it helps. What’s the one AI use case you want, but you’re not deploying yet because security feels messy? Josh's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshbruyning/]
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