Dig Me Out: 70s & 80s Metal
In 1988, a straight-to-VHS satanic panic horror film called Black Roses went nowhere fast. The movie itself is, by any honest assessment, terrible: bright red fake blood, rubber monster suits, Vincent Pastore as a concerned father, and a teacher who kills a possessed student with a tennis racket. What the film left behind, almost accidentally, was a soundtrack worth arguing about. The musicians behind the fictional band Black Roses are King Cobra's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Cobra_(band)] core lineup: Marcie Free [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcie_Free], Mick Sweda [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Sweda], Carmine Appice [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine_Appice], and Chuck Wright. They show up alongside Lizzy Borden [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzy_Borden_(band)], Bang Tango [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang_Tango] (in their first commercial recording ever, predating Psycho Cafe [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho_Cafe] by a year), Tempest, Hallow's Eve [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallow%27s_Eve_(band)], and a second King Kobra lineup featuring Johnny Edwards [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Edwards_(musician)], who later sang for Foreigner [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreigner_(band)]. Metal Blade Records [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Blade_Records] put full-page ads in every metal magazine. The CD now sells for $50 to $300 on Discogs. Patron Keith Miller paid $100 for his. This week, Jay, Tim, and Chip work through whether this is a hidden gem, a curiosity, or something more complicated: a record that does not fit the artist album model or the showcase compilation model, and lands somewhere between the two. 🎧 Listen to the episode on DigMeOutPodcast.com [http://DigMeOutPodcast.com] Episode Highlights Intro (0:00): Poll reveal. Black Roses wins a four-way race at 30.4%, beating Venom, Death Angel, and Marry My Hope. Patron Keith Miller spent $100 on the CD to make this happen. 6:23: The movie. Jay watched it on Tubi: satanic band, small-town teacher, monster from a speaker, tennis racket murder, Vincent Pastore, an open ending where Black Roses heads to Madison Square Garden. 14:07: Is it fun-bad or just bad? Jay: "Worst movie I've ever seen." Taken completely seriously, no camp wink at the camera, zero budget. 17:45: The Keith Miller subplot. An actor named Keith Miller appears in the film's credits. Running gag: he is possessed, much older than we realize, a satanic demon. 20:07: Rock Invasion. Carmine Appice's drumming is most audible here; a conventional anthemic verse gives way to a minor-key trippy middle section nobody expected. 22:27: Two versions of King Cobra on one record. The Black Roses band is the Marcie Free/Mick Sweda/Carmine Appice lineup; "Take It Off" is King Kobra with Johnny Edwards, who later sang for Foreigner. 26:34: Paradise (We're On Our Way). Power ballad that divides the hosts: sounds like Winger or Stan Bush's "The Touch," overly positive, no edge. 30:10: Bang Tango's first commercial recording. "I'm No Stranger" predates Psycho Cafe by a year. Joe Leste's name is spelled differently in the liner notes. 32:13: Me Against the World. The best song on the record by a clear margin. Used twice in the film. Already had a video before the movie existed. 36:03: Take It Off (King Kobra). Johnny Edwards, later of Foreigner. Jay: "Could have been a Gene Simmons song." 41:40: Trick or Treat comparison. The 1986 Fastway soundtrack as a contrast: bigger budget, theatrical release, now retroactively a Fastway album. Future episode pairing suggested. 44:38: Carmine and Pink Floyd. While filming in Canada, Carmine walked into a record store and heard himself on A Momentary Lapse of Reason for the first time. Nick Mason had a hand injury; Floyd called Carmine for "Dogs of War." 47:07: Bill and Ted comparison. Black Roses falls between a cohesive all-artist album and a showcase compilation, satisfying neither. Hosts rattle off both Bill and Ted soundtracks from memory. 53:20: Dance on Fire. Jay: "I kept singing Bon Jovi's 'In and Out of Love': same cadence." Could have had a Headbangers Ball video. Outro: Verdicts delivered. Keith Miller shoutout. Subscribe to Dig Me Out at digmeoutpodcast.com [http://digmeoutpodcast.com] Join the community at dmounion.com [http://dmounion.com] for polls, picks, and deeper dives. Have a lost or forgotten album that deserves the spotlight? Suggest it here. [https://airtable.com/app356TrsQzwKOddY/pagITslz557viDn90/form] This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe [https://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]
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