Disunion: The Government Union Report
What happens when the union that claims to represent you stops representing your interests? On this episode of Disunion, host David Osborne speaks with Chip Rogers, CEO of Americans for FairTreatment (AFFT), to unpack the rapid growth of the organization and the rising backlash among public sector workers. Growing from just a few hundred members to now more than 14,000 nationwide, AFFT is giving teachers, firefighters, federal employees, and others a way to push back against union leadership they say has become overly political and unaccountable. Rogers breaks down why many teachers say they support unions in theory but not their own, and how public sector unions often wield dues and political power in ways that clash with member priorities. He also unpacks the post-Janus fight over worker rights, emerging state reforms like recertification votes and pay flexibility, and the high-stakes battle over TSA unionization and federal worker protections. Along the way, Rogers shares personal stories, from his mother’s experience as a teacher to his own classroom being downgraded by union rules, that illustrate how current labor structures can reward mediocrity and sideline excellence. If you’re interested in worker freedom, union accountability, and the future of public sector labor law, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.
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