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This episode was recorded on September 28, 2004 [http://scripting.com/2004/09/28.html]. From the show notes, preserved on archive.org [https://web.archive.org/web/20050212202716/http://secrets.scripting.com/2004/09/28#a42], written by Adam: "I've learned over the past weeks to always have the audio recording setup ready when Dave and I chat. We always talk voip and have been trying different setups and applications. But inadvertantly, one of will say "we should be recording this" and I flip the switch. This morning Dave was up early and we recorded a podcast, where we talked about 'leakage', played some prince and finally got the sip-phone stuff working" Dave's notes on scripting.com [http://scripting.com/2004/09/28.html#When:8:05:26AM]: "In it Adam and I discuss the merits of Mac vs Windows. Now of course I'm getting (friendly) email from people suggesting that I get a Mac. I'll make a deal. If John Kerry wins I'll get a Mac." 36 minute podcast [https://s3.amazonaws.com/scripting.com/publicfolder/downloads/podcasts/2004/09/28/tsSep28.mp3].
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