Generation on the Rise Podcast
Maggie Dobbs [https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaretdobbs/] is a trained city planner (Rutgers) who spent a decade writing comprehensive plans across Montgomery County before stepping into her current role as Borough Manager of Narberth, Pennsylvania, a half-square-mile community tucked inside Lower Merion Township just outside of Philadelphia. She arrived after a period of leadership turnover. What she found was not a small job. It was a dense one. Host Brandon Ford [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonjhford/] joins co-host Nancy Hess [https://www.linkedin.com/in/njhessassociates/] in a wide ranging conversation with Maggie that moves through the real experience of borough management: the math of running a full municipal government — police, public works, library, eleven miles of road — with fifteen people and a fraction of a township’s budget; the intimacy that makes boroughs special and the same intimacy that makes criticism land close to the heart; and the reality that wearing every hat in the building demands more knowledge, not less, than specializing in a larger organization. Maggie is candid about walking into a community that had cycled through five managers in four years, what it took to steady that ship, and why her focus is on building standard operating procedures so the day-to-day can run itself. Along the way, the crew explores Narberth’s housing story — how a historically working-class rail town became the highest median sales price in Montgomery County — and what that shift means for a community once referred to as “Mayberry,” still sorting out who it is. MuniSquare is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. “My job gets in the way of me doing my job.” — Maggie Dobbs — on the borough manager’s capacity problem “Your hats are wearing hats. It’s a lot.” — Maggie Dobbs — on generalist demands in a small-staff borough "If I had a campaign slogan, it would be policy and procedure. My big push has been standard operating procedures. I want to think less about the day-to-day. I want the day-to-day to essentially run itself because we've already figured it out. I don't want to have to answer questions I've answered again." — Maggie Dobbs, on her first-year management strategy 🔥 Hot Takes Five Realities Before You Take the Seat * Your job will crowd out your job. Protect space for strategic work. * SOPs are not paperwork. They are oxygen. * Fill your blind spots early. Pride is expensive. * Proactive information reduces political friction. * Borough leadership is not smaller. It’s closer. Timestamps 0:00 – Introducing Maggie and Narberth1:18 – The “donut hole” geography inside Lower Merion2:09 – Maggie’s path: NJ Dept. of Agriculture → Rutgers → Planning3:30 – Montgomery County Planning Commission & contract planning model5:49 – Writing four comprehensive plans; interviewing hundreds8:12 – Planners as connectors in local government9:36 – Being tapped for the manager role10:01 – First-year lessons; “90% of the day is listening”12:36 – Compliance vs. innovation — the Venn diagram problem13:20 – Shared services with Lower Merion17:45 – Joint traffic study collaboration21:29 – Pennsylvania’s “nugget” borough system24:02 – Borough vs. township — professional fit27:08 – Narberth staffing reality (4 admin, 6 police, 5 public works)30:00 – Affordable housing question31:05 – Narberth’s housing transformation36:10 – Generalist vs. specialist municipal structures40:47 – SOPs, website overhaul, proactive communication42:00 – Five managers in four years — rebuilding trust44:34 – The lunch that changed her mind49:57 – Finance gaps & building a support network52:27 – Who thrives in borough leadership?54:31 – Closing reflections Get full access to MuniSquare at munisquare.substack.com/subscribe [https://munisquare.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]
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