Growth Capital Podcast
š± Growth Capital Podcast ā Episode 78 š± What if the future of startup funding isnāt about chasing unicorns, but building stronger local economies? In this episode of the Growth Capital Podcast, Justin Dixon sits down with Jeffrey Kaplan, Director of Venture Asheville and CEO of Optimist Ventures, to discuss how venture philanthropy is creating a new capital model for underserved founders and regional businesses. After Hurricane Helene devastated Ashevilleās business community, Jeffrey and his team launched an innovative funding structure combining grants and shared-profit agreements to help entrepreneurs recover, grow, and scale without giving up equity. This episode dives into: š¹ Why āanti-unicornā investing may create stronger communities š¹ How venture philanthropy blends impact with investor returns š¹ The shared-profit agreement model replacing traditional venture debt š¹ Why AI and vibe coding are unlocking opportunities for smaller markets š¹ How founders can scale sustainably without chasing billion-dollar exits š¹ What regional ecosystems can teach Silicon Valley about resilience Whether youāre a founder, investor, operator, or economic development leader, this conversation challenges traditional assumptions about capital, growth, and what success really looks like. š Connect with Jeffrey Kaplan: https://www.optimistventures.co/ [https://www.optimistventures.co/]https://ventureasheville.com/ [https://ventureasheville.com/]LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffdude/ š§ Listen now on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all major podcast platforms. š Like, subscribe, and comment: Should more communities adopt this āanti-unicornā funding model?
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