Hard Hat Chat: No-BS Construction Discussion with Justin & Gerritt
In this episode of Hard Hat Chat, Justin Smith, CEO of Contractor+, and Gerritt Bake, CEO of Build PRO, dig into the question that fires up every contractor Facebook group: should you charge a consultation fee, or is that the fastest way to scare every lead off the planet? Half the room swears it filters serious clients. The other half swears it kills the pipeline. The guys break down why both sides keep missing the real point. Here's the truth they land on early: the fee isn't the problem, the presentation is. Contractors introduce a consultation fee like they're confessing to a crime, mumbling "we kind of have a fee… but it's flexible." The moment you sound unsure, the customer smells it. Compare that to how a dentist mentions a cleaning charge or a mechanic mentions a diagnostic fee: casual, confident, standard. Same fee, completely different reaction. Confidence isn't arrogance. It's just believing your time has value. And consultations were never free for the contractor anyway. They cost fuel, time, expertise, insurance, and opportunity. Five "free quotes" a day isn't five free quotes, it's five billable hours gone. The trades somehow became the only industry where people expect a professional to drive across town, diagnose problems, and give expert advice for nothing. Try asking a lawyer or a surgeon for a free hour. The guys also hit the psychology: when someone pays even $99, they're invested. They show up on time, they listen, they don't ghost. Free-quote customers vanish like ninjas after an hour on-site. The real reframe is that a fee scares away the wrong leads, the tire-kickers, the "just collecting ideas" crowd, the brother-in-law-might-help people, while the serious ones stay and often close at a higher rate. Justin and Gerritt get practical too: when to charge, how to word it, and how to apply the fee toward the project so it lowers friction instead of raising it. State the number, explain the value, and don't ask "is that okay?" The silence is processing, not rejection. 🔧 In this episode, you'll learn how to: * Reframe a consultation fee as a professional service, not a toll to show up * Spot the tire-kickers a fee filters out before they eat your afternoon * Introduce the fee with the same confidence you'd say your own name * Word the offer so the fee applies toward the project and lowers friction * Recognize why paying customers close higher and ghost less * Identify when a visit is a quote versus actual paid consulting * Turn the fee into a branding signal that attracts premium clients If you've ever spent an hour on a site visit for someone who was never going to hire you, this episode is the gut-check you've been waiting for.
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