Holdin’ Space with Z and Lee

for Zombies, Corsets, Cubicles & Fake-Woke Men

49 min · 18 de jun de 2025
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Z & Lee are peeling back the layers this week — from the politics of love to the lies period dramas keep selling us 👀. They’re talking social media chaos, fake progressives, and how being “liberal passing” can look great in a dating profile… until you realise his idea of activism is retweeting once and ghosting twice. It’s a deep, reflective episode with just enough shade to keep it real. Expect personal stories, a few media hot takes, and an honest look at how hard it is to navigate love when the vibes are off and the politics are worse 💔📉. Takeaways: * Introspection isn’t just for journaling — it helps you figure out what kind of love you actually want 📝 * Media shapes how we see ourselves and others (especially when it’s wearing a bonnet) 📺 * Just because someone sounds progressive doesn’t mean they are 🤡 * The internet has turned everyone into a commentator, whether they have range or not 🗣️ * Comfort shows are real — and sometimes necessary when the world feels like too much 🫂 Chapters: 00:00 – Unpacking Relationships and Introspection 🧠 04:17 – Cultural Fantasies and Reality 🎬 09:01 – Comfort in Entertainment 🍿 16:32 – The Impact of Opinions in Society 📢 25:12 – Reflections on Time and Timeline 🕰️ 30:34 – Reflections on Colonialism and Identity 🏛️ 38:43 – Navigating Relationships and Political Ideologies 💘⚠️

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3 de jul de 202548 min
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This week on Holdin’ Space with Z & Lee, Lee steps into his grown era 👏🏽 and reflects on all the ✨ lessons learned ✨ from past messes — because if you're not growing, you're just repeating the same situations with different hairstyles. We get real about sex, self-worth, and the sacred act of being with someone who actually cares 🛐 (shout out to the gentle tops doing the Lord’s work 🙌🏾). Z shares some Pride Month reflections 🏳️‍🌈 — the celebration, the struggle, and the slightly overdone corporate collabs. We dive into coming out stories (some cute, some chaotic), explore the gaps in queer sex ed 📚, and answer a very honest listener letter about how to prep for sex (aka Bottoming 101 🍑🚿). No shame here, just truths, tea, and a few tips your PE teacher definitely skipped. Whether you’re finding yourself, finding your position, or finding the confidence to speak up in bed — we got you. This episode is tender, shady, and everything in between 💅🏽. 🕰 Chapters: 00:00 – Lee’s growth era begins (again) 🌚 02:31 – Pride Month without the performative glitter 🎉 05:18 – In praise of Tops That Care 💆🏽‍♂️ 07:56 – Why sexual etiquette is hot 🔥 10:29 – Global Pride vibes 🌍 11:21 – Coming out: the soft launch vs. the scream 🧏🏽 21:06 – Balancing faith and your freaky side 🙃 25:11 – Is it sin or is it Sunday? ⛪️ 27:40 – More coming out gags (literally) 🤐 31:53 – First times: the expectation vs. the chaos 🎬 43:05 – Bottoming 101: Prep, patience & poppers 😮‍💨🍑

26 de jun de 202548 min
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Z & Lee are peeling back the layers this week — from the politics of love to the lies period dramas keep selling us 👀. They’re talking social media chaos, fake progressives, and how being “liberal passing” can look great in a dating profile… until you realise his idea of activism is retweeting once and ghosting twice. It’s a deep, reflective episode with just enough shade to keep it real. Expect personal stories, a few media hot takes, and an honest look at how hard it is to navigate love when the vibes are off and the politics are worse 💔📉. Takeaways: * Introspection isn’t just for journaling — it helps you figure out what kind of love you actually want 📝 * Media shapes how we see ourselves and others (especially when it’s wearing a bonnet) 📺 * Just because someone sounds progressive doesn’t mean they are 🤡 * The internet has turned everyone into a commentator, whether they have range or not 🗣️ * Comfort shows are real — and sometimes necessary when the world feels like too much 🫂 Chapters: 00:00 – Unpacking Relationships and Introspection 🧠 04:17 – Cultural Fantasies and Reality 🎬 09:01 – Comfort in Entertainment 🍿 16:32 – The Impact of Opinions in Society 📢 25:12 – Reflections on Time and Timeline 🕰️ 30:34 – Reflections on Colonialism and Identity 🏛️ 38:43 – Navigating Relationships and Political Ideologies 💘⚠️

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