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In this episode, we sit down with Rohan Kumar, the strategist who led MrBeast’s TikTok to become the fastest-growing account three years in a row. He’s now advising brands and startups on how to break through the noise with moments that actually stick. Rohan walks us through how he went from a COVID-era college grad pestering Colin & Samir weekly to running content strategy for one of the biggest creators on the planet, what he learned posting hundreds of videos before finding a playbook, and why most brands are still approaching TikTok completely wrong. We get into the real mechanics of virality: the single image you want stuck in people’s brains, why manufactured moments beat creative briefs, how he pulled off a live 8-hour Kevin from The Office stunt for Ramp, and why giving creators “creative control” is mostly a cop-out. If you’re a CMO, founder, or marketer trying to figure out what actually works in 2025, this is the playbook. Subscribe to stay in the know with consumer trends and marketing. Timestamps: ]6:09 — How Rohan got started in the creator economy post-COVID 07:28 — Annoying his way into Colin & Samir (and why it worked) 08:30 — Getting introduced to Jimmy and joining MrBeast 10:17 — Learning TikTok from scratch: 100 videos, run the data, iterate 11:24 — Making Jimmy feel like a TikToker + why brands still aren’t trying right 16:49 — Why brands need to be inside the community, not above it 17:39 — Breaking down the Ramp x Kevin from The Office live activation 22:03 — The “image in the brain” theory: designing content to get clipped 26:37 — Streaming, clipping, UGC: Innovator’s Dilemma for creators 30:00 — Why influencer marketing needs moments, not just creative briefs 33:03 — CMO advice: post daily, nail your hooks, budget reality check This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit playkit.substack.com [https://playkit.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]
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