Ep 11: Stage vs. Booth: Building Trust Across the Divide with Landon Boggs

Ep 11: Stage vs. Booth: Building Trust Across the Divide with Landon Boggs

The tension between the stage and the booth is one of the most common — and least talked about — dynamics in church production. In this episode, Gabe sits down with Landon Boggs, Experience Director at New Point Community Church (six campuses across eastern Ohio), for an honest, behind-the-scenes conversation about what it actually takes to lead both sides of the room well. Landon brings a rare perspective: decades of experience as a working musician and worship leader, now in an executive leadership role overseeing worship, production, video, and communications across a multi-site church. He’s lived on both sides of the tension — and he has a lot to say about it. This one covers a lot of ground: why production people are so often misunderstood by the leaders above them, what it looks like to lead people who are technically smarter than you, how to build a culture where volunteers become reproducers, and why trust — not title — is the real currency between the stage and the booth. Landon also tells the story of a young intern who had no idea what he was doing but was too good to let go — and what happened when a leader chose to invest instead of automate. Topics include: * The unique burden of leading highly capable, ministry-minded technicians * Why production people generate almost none of their own workload * Automation and AI: where to draw the line with volunteer positions * Building a pipeline from volunteer to staff (a real story, not a framework) * What worship leaders wish their production teams understood — and vice versa * Why you don’t need a microphone to lead worship This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit houselightspod.substack.com [https://houselightspod.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

Ep 10: Fighting the Production Guy Stereotype

Production people have a reputation: defensive, condescending, care more about gear than people. “My way or the highway.” The stereotype exists because some of us earned it. But it doesn’t have to be this way. In this episode, I’m talking about how to fight the production guy stereotype by becoming the kind of leaders people actually want to follow—leaders who look like Jesus. We are a support ministry. By design, we’re not in the spotlight—we make the people on stage look and sound awesome. That’s servant leadership. Scripture foundation: * Mark 10:45 - “The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve” * John 13 - Jesus washing the disciples’ feet * Galatians 5:22-23 - The fruit of the Spirit Jesus washed feet. We mix audio and run cameras. Same heart. The fruit of the Spirit in production leadership: Love, patience, kindness, gentleness, self-control. The best production people are both deeply skilled AND deeply pastoral. If people can’t see the fruit of the Spirit in how you lead, you’re doing it wrong. How to fight the stereotype: * Humility - Take feedback graciously (Matthew 11:29) * Clarity - Jesus taught simply. Kill the jargon. * Collaboration - Jesus invited input. Don’t dictate. * People over protocol - Jesus chose people over rules (Mark 2:27) * Servant leadership - Serve your team first The challenge: Be excellent in your craft AND Christ-like in your character. When we all look more like Jesus, the stereotype dies. Don’t just be good at production. Be like Jesus to people. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit houselightspod.substack.com [https://houselightspod.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

Ep 9: You Can't Lead Others Well If You're Not Leading Yourself

You showed up. You set the stage, ran the pre-service checks, briefed your volunteers — and you haven’t slept more than five hours in three days. This is the episode nobody wants to admit they need. In this episode, Gabriel gets honest about a season where personal neglect quietly turned him into someone his teammates didn’t recognize — and what it took to climb back. He walks through the three pillars of health that every church production leader needs to steward: physical, mental and emotional, and spiritual — and why all three are more connected than most of us want to acknowledge. This isn’t a wellness lecture. It’s a conversation about sustainability, leadership integrity, and what it actually means to serve from fullness instead of emptiness. James Clear said it well: “You don’t rise to the level of your goals, you fall to the level of your systems.” This episode helps you build better ones. Topics include: * Why sleep, food, and movement aren’t optional for leaders * The real cost of carrying a heavy mental load with no margin * Why being in church every weekend doesn’t mean your walk with God is healthy * The Bible reading stat that might change how seriously you take daily devotion * Practical systems for all three pillars — specific, repeatable, and actually doable God doesn’t need you to burn out for him. He needs you to be healthy. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit houselightspod.substack.com [https://houselightspod.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

Ep 8: Before You Buy Cameras or LED Walls, Start Here

In this episode of House Lights Podcast, we break down the 5 core principles behind great church video systems—whether you’re running a single projector in a small room or managing a multi-campus broadcast environment. From color consistency and smooth transitions to camera composition, lighting, and intentional gear choices, this conversation is all about making better decisions with the tools you already have. We cover: * Projectors vs LED walls * When churches actually need cameras * IMAG best practices * Video switchers and ProPresenter workflows * Lighting for in-room and online video * How to create distraction-free transitions * Scaling systems wisely at any budget The goal isn’t to chase trendy gear—it’s to create systems that serve the message, support your volunteers, and help people connect without distraction. Whether your budget is $500 or $500,000, these principles will help your church production team move forward with confidence. #ChurchProduction #ChurchTech #AVL #ProPresenter #VideoSwitching #ChurchLeadership #HouseLightsPodcast This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit houselightspod.substack.com [https://houselightspod.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

Ep. 7: Be Just Enough: The Rotem Bush and Pastoral Care

Have you ever felt that anxiety when someone comes to you in the booth—distraught, hurting—and your immediate thought is: ‘Wait, I’m just the production guy. I’m a technician, not a pastor’? You’re not alone. But here’s the reality: if you’re leading people in the church, you’re a pastor. Whether you feel qualified or not. In this episode, I share a biblical image that changed how I think about pastoral care: the Rotem Bush. The Rotem Bush: In the Old Testament, God brought Israel into the wilderness to grow them. In that desert, the Rotem (or Broom tree) is a small shrub about the size of a sagebrush. In scripture, Rotem is synonymous with shade—associated with people ready to give up. Elijah after Mount Carmel. Hagar and Ishmael. The Rotem provides just enough shade to rest, just enough relief to make it to the next bush. It’s not an oak tree—it’s modest, small, but sufficient. God is our shade—and we are called to be shade for others. Psalm 80 says God planted Israel to be shade for the world. Isaiah 32 says each ruler will be “like a shelter from the wind, like streams of water in the desert.” The lesson of just enough: We want to give people the shade of an oak tree—complete answers, solutions to their suffering. But what people need is the Rotem bush—just enough presence to take the next step. You don’t have to fix their suffering. You just have to be present in it. What “just enough” looks like: * Pray with them * Sit with them (sometimes silence is enough) * Follow up later * Be honest: “I don’t have answers, but I’m here” * Refer to professionals when needed The most searched thing on ChatGPT right now is “how to deal with loneliness.” We can stand in that gap. We can provide shade. You’re not solving their desert—that’s between them and God. You’re just called to be shade. Next time you feel inadequate, remember the Rotem. Be just enough. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit houselightspod.substack.com [https://houselightspod.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]