Humans in the Loop
China is shaping the world.In direct ways, like innovation, foreign policy, investment.And indirectly, by provoking a response from countries such as the US who see it as a competitor.China's transformation into one of the world's superpowers is the most remarkable transformation of a single country in the history of the world.And yet it's still poorly understood (including by me).Selina Xu is a writer, researcher and AI & China policy lead in the office of former Google CEO, Eric Schmidt and is here to shed light on China and its technology industry, dispelling some myths along the way.Where else you can listen: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4BbslJR0KA5bfqrcYRhJER?si=d0edc1049eac4f39 Apple podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humans-in-the-loop/id1831285114Or wherever you get your podcasts! Chapters 00:00 The Evolution of China's Tech Industry 03:38 Debunking the Copycat Narrative 06:16 The Role of the State in Innovation 09:51 Xi Jinping's Vision for Technology 12:44 The Return of Jack Ma 15:35 China's Perspective on Global Competition 19:28 Defining Winning in the Superpower Race 22:40 China's Unique Approach to Technology Deployment 26:50 The Role of the State in AI Development 30:03 DeepSeek and the Evolution of Chinese AI 34:19 Agentic AI: Trends and Trajectories 36:57 Emerging Frontiers in AI Research 40:12 Infrastructure and Support for Tech Industries 43:44 Geopolitical Implications of Taiwan and Semiconductors 46:03 Cultural Perspectives on China and Tech 48:53 Optimistic Visions for the Future of AILinks: Selina's website [https://selinaxu.com/] China's AI+ initiative [https://merics.org/en/comment/chinas-ai-drive-aims-integration-across-sectors-wake-call-europe] Involution [https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2025/11/17/the-problem-of-involution-in-china/] Suspension of ANT's IPO [https://www.reuters.com/article/world/uk/timeline-key-events-behind-suspension-of-ant-groups-37-billion-ipo-idUSKBN27K1A0/] Common prosperity [https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-common-prosperity-what-does-it-mean-for-foreign-investors/] Deepseek moment [https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_chinasdeepseekmoment_a4.pdf] Chin AI substack - Jeffrey Ding [https://chinai.substack.com/] Get in touch Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/humansinthelooppod Email: seb@theuncommonfounder.com Website: https://www.theuncommonfounder.com
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