Inclusive Faith Podcast
In this deeply personal and extended episode, Kade Rogers talks with his husband, Dr. Gregory S. Neal, about Greg’s experience surviving conversion therapy as a teenager. Greg shares the story of being outed as a young person, being told that being gay separated him from God, and being sent into a conversion therapy program that used shame, fear, Scripture, and aversion practices in an attempt to change him. Together, Kade and Greg talk about the lasting harm of conversion therapy, religious trauma, spiritual abuse, and church harm. They also reflect on the faith and love that helped Greg survive, including the powerful support of his great Aunt Witchy, who reminded him that God loved him exactly as he was. This episode is a difficult but necessary conversation about why conversion therapy is harmful, why LGBTQ+ people do not need to be fixed, and why faith should never be used as a weapon against someone’s identity. Content note: This episode includes discussion of conversion therapy, religious trauma, emotional abuse, aversion therapy, suicidal ideation, and church harm.
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