Investing in Regeneration: Transforming Planning and Finance through Systems Thinking
In this episode of Investing in Regeneration, Mónica Altamirano de Jong is joined by Nancy Santullo, founder of Rainforest Flow, and Samuel Schwan, board president and philanthropist, to explore a powerful, place-based model delivering clean water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) services to indigenous communities in the Peruvian Amazon. What begins as access to clean water evolves into something much deeper: improved health, strengthened social cohesion, empowered communities, and healthy forest and freshwater ecosystems that ensue. Nancy and Samuel share how a community-driven, culturally integrated approach, built over 20+ years, has not only reduced disease dramatically but also fostered cooperation, local ownership, and long-term sustainability. ▶️ How Community-Driven WASH Systems Transform Health, Ecosystems & Social Cohesion 00:00:00 Introduction to Investing in Regeneration 00:04:06 The Rainforest Flow Model: Water, Sanitation & Community Ownership 00:09:32 Theory of Change and Paradigm Shifts 00:16:31 The Birth of Rainforest Flow 00:23:17 Samuel’s Journey: Emergency Response to Philanthropy 00:26:48 Designing Resilient, Adaptive Water Systems 00:33:17 Barriers to Scaling: Policy, Procurement & Investment 00:40:10 Funding: Philanthropy, Fees & Long-Term Sustainability 00:49:15 Climate Resilience and Portable Infrastructure Design 00:52:47 Participation, Ownership & Indigenous Leadership 00:59:19 Bottlenecks: Investment in Ecosystems vs. People 01:04:10 Lessons for Scaling Regenerative Infrastructure Notable Quotes: “Clean water is the entry point, but transformation is the outcome.” - Nancy Santullo “The results don't line up with what you're hoping for when you don't meet people where they're at, listen to them, and work with them throughout the entire process. I think that's the Rainforest Flow success model.” - Samuel Schwan Connect with Nancy & Samuel: 📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancysantullo/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancysantullo/] 📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-schwan-b9753a338/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-schwan-b9753a338/] 💻 Website: https://rainforestflow.org/ [https://rainforestflow.org/] Connect with Mónica: 📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/] 💻 Website: https://altamira-regen.com/ [https://altamira-regen.com/] Produced by Ideablossoms [https://ideablossoms.com/]
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