Kelly Talks Brand
What happens when two creatives stop waiting for certainty and start building anyway? In this episode of Kelly Talks Brand, I sit down with Ryan Yao and Sarah, a Vancouver-based creative couple behind the indie app Cat on Chair. Ryan is a former product designer who quit his stable job to explore building apps full-time. Sarah is an illustrator and graphic designer who brings warmth, storytelling, and playfulness into everything she creates. Together, they share an honest look at what it’s really like to: * leave a well-paid, “safe” career in your 30s * build a product without knowing if it will work * navigate identity as immigrants who don’t fully feel “from” anywhere * collaborate as a couple with very different strengths * create through loneliness, uncertainty, and long stretches without external validation This conversation isn’t about overnight success. It’s about choosing the harder path and staying with it. ☕ 15-Minute Clarity Call (Free) If you’re navigating a transition in your career, identity, or creative direction and want to explore whether we’re a good fit to work together, I offer a free 15-minute Clarity Call. This is a short, focused conversation to understand your situation, clarify what you’re working through, and see if my approach and services are right for your next step. No pressure. No obligation. Just clarity on fit and direction. Book the call here: calendly.com/kellytalksbrand/45 [http://calendly.com/kellytalksbrand/45] Host: Kelly Kang (Chinese Girl Figuring Her Lift Out After 35) Producer & Editor: Kelly Kang
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