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When Faith Meets Mars: A Priest-Scientist Speaks

23 min · 10 de jun de 2026
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Can you search for life on Mars — and still believe in God?  An Episcopal priest and NASA astrobiologist, Pamela Conrad spent years working on rover missions designed to look for signs of life on Mars. In this conversation with Kwok Pui Lan, she makes the case that faith and science are not enemies — they are two different lenses pointed at the same reality. Topics covered: * Why curiosity is at the heart of both science and faith * What the Mars rover missions revealed about life — and about creation * Why the US-China moon race is a colonial problem, not a scientific one * How to read Genesis without reading it literally — and what a medieval rabbi says about it * How her book A Believer's Journey Through the Stars is structured around sound, light, and time * Why "darkness" and "blackness" are not the same thing — and its implications for race * Why she prefers "we ARE creation" over "creation care" * The Society of Ordained Scientists and its mission in an age of disinformation 📖 A Believer's Journey Through the Stars [https://www.amazon.com/Believers-Journey-Through-Stars-Reflections/dp/1640658858/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3AK16JCEBUKWO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5vzFyNxhrpyXuMDcp0sAY8Bn1kPjdnO_5h28J1wHhyWVXIMeleXyN7kLrYP4R5Hx.cQTH_gTD9QATG-HKAws9ggnxkwoyInWTmCTtkh3RRVo&dib_tag=se&keywords=Pamela+Gales+Conrad&qid=1781038527&sprefix=pamela+gales+conrad%2Caps%2C179&sr=8-1] by Pamela G. Conrad

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When Faith Meets Mars: A Priest-Scientist Speaks

Can you search for life on Mars — and still believe in God?  An Episcopal priest and NASA astrobiologist, Pamela Conrad spent years working on rover missions designed to look for signs of life on Mars. In this conversation with Kwok Pui Lan, she makes the case that faith and science are not enemies — they are two different lenses pointed at the same reality. Topics covered: * Why curiosity is at the heart of both science and faith * What the Mars rover missions revealed about life — and about creation * Why the US-China moon race is a colonial problem, not a scientific one * How to read Genesis without reading it literally — and what a medieval rabbi says about it * How her book A Believer's Journey Through the Stars is structured around sound, light, and time * Why "darkness" and "blackness" are not the same thing — and its implications for race * Why she prefers "we ARE creation" over "creation care" * The Society of Ordained Scientists and its mission in an age of disinformation 📖 A Believer's Journey Through the Stars [https://www.amazon.com/Believers-Journey-Through-Stars-Reflections/dp/1640658858/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3AK16JCEBUKWO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5vzFyNxhrpyXuMDcp0sAY8Bn1kPjdnO_5h28J1wHhyWVXIMeleXyN7kLrYP4R5Hx.cQTH_gTD9QATG-HKAws9ggnxkwoyInWTmCTtkh3RRVo&dib_tag=se&keywords=Pamela+Gales+Conrad&qid=1781038527&sprefix=pamela+gales+conrad%2Caps%2C179&sr=8-1] by Pamela G. Conrad

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