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In this special episode, host Jared Correia partners with MCLE New England to decode the exact strategy lawyers need to deploy to secure high-visibility speaking engagements, build domain authority, and generate massive referral networks. Bruce Richard, Director at MCLE New England, breaks down the inner workings of CLE selection, revealing that his organization coordinates over 360 programs annually and is constantly hunting for fresh educational curriculum and proactive legal voices. Bruce shares his direct access channel for any attorney ready to pitch a program topic. Stepping up to the microphone, an elite panel of veteran presenters share their diverse shortcuts and real-world execution strategies for commanding the legal stage: * Victoria Santoro (Santoro & Gray) reflects on the brutal workload of balancing a new law firm launch with serving as the immediate past President of the Massachusetts Bar Association. She reveals how her early marketing blog, "The Limber Lawyer," built an authentic brand identity, and emphasizes that joining volunteer bar section councils is the fastest track to getting noticed by major CLE decision-makers. * Pete Jamieson (Hastings, Jamieson Lipschutz Family Law Group) charts his unique path from a mailroom clerk to managing highly technical marital asset division and tax algorithms. Pete explains how his background in the performing arts shaped his courtroom delivery and details why attorneys must ditch text-heavy slide decks in favor of high-energy pacing, unique handouts, and well-placed engagement tools like GIFs. * Gabriel Cheong (Infinity Law Group) shares how he scaled his practice by transitioning fully to fixed-fee divorce litigation models and developing proprietary guideline apps for family court judges. Gabriel provides a brilliant masterclass in speaker positioning, explaining how he cornered the legal market early by establishing himself as an expert in tech-adjacent business frameworks rather than competing in crowded substantive fields. * Jennifer Mikels (Goulston & Storrs) pulls back the curtain on her high-stakes trial practice defending fellow lawyers in professional liability, ethics, and partnership conflicts. Jen shares a vital warning regarding a recent business litigation court ruling that denied a lawyer entry on a pro hac vice basis due to unvetted AI hallucinations. She outlines how to systematically collaborate with internal advisory committees to seamlessly refresh recurring CLE topics. The episode ends with a showdown in the Counter Program as Tori Santoro and Bruce Richard square off for a round of "How Broke Am I?". Interested in finding a speaking opportunity? Reach out to MCLE New England [https://www.mcle.org], your local bar or local CLE organization. Check out our Spotify playlist [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5orHOdjpLpnt17Zb6bhqfU?si=jt0Ewk23TouIyiar4fPV3g]for this episode. We're grateful to be supported by Attorney at Work Today, and Lawyer 2 Lawyer. Subscribe to Attorney at Work Today [https://legalbroadcastingcompany.com/attorney-at-work-today/]. Subscribe to Lawyer 2 Lawyer [https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/lawyer-2-lawyer/]. * (00:00) - Monologue: Partnering with MCLE New England to Land Legal Speaking Gigs * (01:29) - Bruce Richard on Coordinating 360 Annual Programs and Pitching CLE Ideas * (02:43) - Quebec Nordiques Hockey Logos and Powder Blue Jerseys * (04:30) - Victoria Santoro on Bar Association Leadership and "The Limber Lawyer" Blog * (11:07) - Utilizing Volunteer Organizations as a Springboard for Referral Networks * (16:40) - Pete Jamieson on Transitioning From Mailroom Clerk to Complex Asset Math * (21:35) - Ditching Boring PowerPoints and Injecting Personality into CLE Presentations * (28:53) - Old Old-Fashioned Drink Mixology and Silicone Cube Trays * (31:54) - Gabriel Cheong on Acquiring Practices and Transitioning to Fixed-Fee Litigation * (35:48) - Building Child Support Apps and Dominating Tech-Adjacent Speaking Niches * (46:44) - Jennifer Mikels on Legal Malpractice Defense and the "ER of Law" * (48:13) - Breaking Down AI Hallucination Punishments and Court Entry Denials * (52:04) - Collaborating with MCLE Advisory Committees to Get in the Speaker Rolodex * (01:01:08) - Counter Program: Tori Santoro vs. Bruce Richard on "How Broke Am I?" * (01:18:12) - Outro, Grillos Pickles, and the All-Bands Spotify Playlist Click here to view the episode transcript. [https://share.transistor.fm/s/dce768fe/transcript]
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