Let's Talk, People with Emily Frieze-Kemeny
What if the remote vs. in-office work debate was actually missing the point? It’s easy to think that in-office work will solve our performance, connection, and culture problems. But the truth is those existed long before work from home entered the picture. In this episode, Emily sits down with Allison Vendt [https://www.linkedin.com/in/allisonvendt/], VP of People Operations and Head of Virtual First at Dropbox. Allison led the design of Dropbox’s Virtual First model, rethinking how work happens at scale. Together, Emily and Allison unpack what it really takes to design work that works for people, teams, and the bottom line. They explore why treating the employee experience like a product changes everything, how structure (not proximity) drives performance, and why most return-to-office mandates fail to address the real issue. And they offer practical strategies to rethink your ways of working, from redefining meetings and async work to using in-person time intentionally for trust, decision-making, and speed. Whether you’re leading a distributed team, navigating return-to-office pressure, or trying to rebuild engagement and trust, this conversation will help you move beyond the proximity debate and learn to lead your teams stronger than ever before. Timestamps: * [00:03:13] The Office Wasn’t Working Either – Emily and Allison challenge the assumption that pre-pandemic work was effective, unpacking why many organizations are trying to return to a system that never truly solved performance or connection. * [00:09:06] Designing Work Like A Product – Allison shares how Dropbox approached Virtual First like a product. From identifying first principles to treating the employee experience as something to build, test, and iterate with user input and data along the way. * [00:15:30] Structure Drives Performance, Not Proximity – The conversation turns to practical execution, from async-first communication to redefining meetings, showing how intentional structure enables focus, clarity, and better collaboration. * [00:37:24] Make In-Person Time Earn Its Value – Emily and Allison explore how leaders can get leadership buy-in and demonstrate the ROI of time spent together. Access the episode transcript. [https://www.arosegroup.com/post/let-s-talk-people-episode-39] Connect with Emily Frieze-Kemeny on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-frieze-kemeny/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/letstalkpeoplepodcast/] or explore her work through AROSE Group’s website [https://www.arosegroup.com?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=captivate&utm_campaign=interview&utm_content=uncovering]. If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to Let’s Talk, People in Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lets-talk-people-with-emily-frieze-kemeny/id1713722861], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/3uxBZJBn8xZMHJrdrxEyOU], or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts. It helps others discover the show. Thanks for listening to Let’s Talk, People!
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