Marilyn Monroe, Part 2: The Bombshell, Bombshells, and Remembering Norma Jean

Gianni Versace Part 1: Murder Is So Last Season

The Floozies open with personal travel updates, including Ashley's "soft elopement" wedding before an Italy trip, Jen's Lisbon Filmapalooza trip with Rotten Rabbit TV (including making a short film) followed by 10 days in Paris, and Olivia's private-jet travel to an Alice Cooper concert where she reconnects with theater contacts. They then introduce the episode's topic: Gianni Versace's life and murder, discussing American Crime Story and questions about "assassination" vs murder and serial vs spree killers. Olivia outlines Versace's upbringing in Italy, his mother's tailoring influence, classical studies, founding his label in 1978, his bold aesthetic, supermodel-era runway innovations, Medusa branding symbolism, and long-term partner Antonio D'Amico. Olivia begins profiling killer Andrew Cunanan's background—elite schooling, status-obsessed fantasies, family instability, sexuality conflicts, relationships with older wealthy men, and escalating pathology after his father fled in 1988—setting up a later timeline of the 1997 killings and law enforcement missteps. 00:00 Listener Warning 00:15 Meet The Hosts 00:47 Chipmunks Nostalgia 03:34 Louvre Ninja Turtles 04:16 Soft Elopement Wedding 08:51 Lisbon Film Festival Trip 14:53 Private Jet Alice Cooper 19:07 Versace Episode Setup 23:46 Versace Early Life 28:59 Milan Label Breakthrough 31:04 Supermodels And Runway Shows 35:43 Medusa Logo Meaning 38:29 Partner And Privacy Talk 44:05 Privacy And Algorithms 44:50 Versace And Damico Reality 46:41 Cunanan Enters Story 48:16 Murder Versus Assassination 57:37 Cunanan Childhood And Status 01:09:01 Sex Work And Grooming Talk 01:16:38 Family Collapse And Rage 01:19:43 Psychology Risk Factors 01:30:12 Spree Timeline And Wrap

Marilyn Monroe, Part 2: The Bombshell, Bombshells, and Remembering Norma Jean

Jen, Ashley, and Olivia discuss theories about Marilyn Monroe's death, separating documented facts from speculation, following Donald Wolfe's 1998 book Last Days of Marilyn Monroe. They review claims that Monroe may have been a homicide victim tied to alleged Kennedy relationships and potential political fallout, including testimony from Deputy DA John Miner suggesting drugs entered through the large intestine (possibly via enema) and questions about missing organ samples. They examine Peter Lawford's (yes, Jen gets it right this time) reported sedated phone call and contrast it with Joe DiMaggio Jr.'s later account that Monroe sounded normal, plus disputed time-of-death estimates. They highlight shifting statements by housekeeper/nurse Eunice Murray, delays in contacting police, Sergeant Jack Clemmons' discomfort with the "soldier position" and orderly pill bottles, and a broken window with contested glass patterns. They cover alternative explanations including medical negligence, accidental overdose, narrative control, intelligence monitoring, and organized crime connections, noting the 1982 DA review found no conclusive homicide evidence, and the death remains listed as "probable suicide." 00:00 Listener Warning 00:16 Meet the Hosts 00:52 Cold Open Banter 01:48 Marilyn Death Theories 04:35 Wolfe Kennedy Theory 07:52 Autopsy Enema Evidence 13:59 Peter Lawford Call 19:21 Eunice Murray Timeline 30:00 Conflicting Phone Calls 32:45 Clemmons Scene Doubts 36:04 Soldier Pose Window 43:48 Intermission Plug 44:39 House Layout Window 46:11 Odd Scene Details 46:57 Kennedy Timeline Debate 49:57 Claims Versus Facts 50:31 Toxicology And Drug Risks 56:07 Theory Medical Negligence 57:02 Theory: Accidental Overdose 01:03:27 Theory: Timeline Shifts 01:10:20 Theory: Narrative Control 01:12:18 FBI CIA Surveillance Theory 01:15:48 Mob And Staging Theories 01:22:06 Why The Case Endures 01:28:29 Final Reflections And Wrap

Marilyn Monroe, Part 1: Norma Jean, the Hollywood Machine, and a Death That Still Raises Questions

Jen, Ashley, and Olivia open their true-crime-in-entertainment podcast with personal updates and then begin a two-part episode on Marilyn Monroe, including a warning about disturbing content and an apology for misnaming Peter Lawford. Jen recaps Monroe's early life as Norma Jean Mortenson (born June 1, 1926), marked by her mother Gladys Baker's severe mental illness, foster care and an orphanage, an unknown father, and reported childhood sexual assault by a tenant. At 16 she married James Dougherty to avoid returning to an orphanage; after he joined the Merchant Marines, she was discovered modeling at the Radio Plane Company, divorced, and signed with 20th Century Fox in 1946 as "Marilyn Monroe," with a studio-driven image overhaul. They discuss her intelligence, acting study under Lee Strasberg, founding Marilyn Monroe Productions, troubled marriages to Joe DiMaggio and Arthur Miller, worsening mental health and heavy sedative use, and the contested August 4–5, 1962 timeline of her death in Brentwood, including accounts from Eunice Murray, Dr. Greenson, Sgt. Jack Clemmons, and rumors involving the Kennedys to be explored in part two. 00:00 Quick Correction and Warning 00:36 Hosts Catch Up 01:39 Kristin Chenoweth Encounter 02:56 Movie Cameo and Scheduling Chaos 08:29 Introducing Marilyn Monroe Case 11:38 Death Night Overview 12:49 Before Marilyn Childhood 17:08 Foster Homes and Abuse 27:12 Teen Marriage Escape 34:51 Brains Behind the Bombshell 41:52 Making of Marilyn Begins 44:06 Intermission and Plug 44:55 Fox Contract and New Name 47:13 Face Changes Debate 48:17 Platinum Blonde Power 49:47 Hair Color Confessions 51:57 Early Films and Playboy 53:51 Manufactured Icon Persona 57:24 Love and Marriage Tension 57:55 DiMaggio Jealousy Fallout 01:01:11 Arthur Miller Betrayal 01:10:02 Marilyn Pushes Back 01:14:02 Doctors and Drug Spiral 01:26:01 Final Day Timeline 01:28:13 Clemmons and Suspicions 01:34:04 Kennedy Theories Tease

The Twilight Zone Movie Disaster and the Rage of Triscuits

Ashley dives into the "Twilight Zone: The Movie" disaster, detailing the July 23, 1982, on-set helicopter crash in California that killed actor Vic Morrow and child actors Micah Dinh Le (7) and Renee Shin-Yi Chen (6) and injured six others. They discuss John Landis's "Time Out" segment and explain how studio concerns about an unsympathetic protagonist led Landis to add a Vietnam rescue ending involving the children, who were hired illegally and paid under the table, hidden from safety personnel, and whose parents were allegedly misled about helicopters and explosives. Testimony and an NTSB report attributed the crash to special-effects explosions damaging the helicopter, while Landis and others were tried and acquitted of manslaughter; civil suits were settled. The episode covers fallout involving Spielberg, industry safety reforms and hotlines, and reflections on performers advocating for safety. 00:00 Listener Warning 00:14 Meet the Hosts 00:39 Rage Triscuit Banter 01:53 Tea Talk and Catnip 04:31 Episode Reveal and Intro 06:15 Twilight Zone Disaster Overview 07:32 Movie Structure and Cast 11:48 Landis Segment Plot 16:34 Key Players Landis and Morrow 22:17 The Night of the Crash 35:37 Safety Failures and Illegal Child Labor 44:33 Aftermath and Spielberg Reaction 47:49 Eddie Murphy Fallout 50:16 Warnings Before the Crash 53:11 Trial Testimony and Blame 01:01:12 Settlements and Film Release Ethics 01:07:53 Safety Reforms After Tragedy 01:12:49 Aftermath for Landis and Morrow 01:20:14 Safety PSA and Wrap Up

The Hollywood Red Scare: Witches, Commies, and Orson Wells (yes, again)

Jen dives into the post–World War II Red Scare in Hollywood, framing it as a true-crime-like witch hunt driven by fear rather than evidence. Beginning with HUAC's October 20, 1947 investigation, they explain how subpoenas, the question "Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?", and pressure to "name names" split witnesses into "friendly" and "unfriendly," leading to the Hollywood 10's contempt convictions and prison sentences. They describe the Waldorf Statement and the unofficial blacklist's career-destroying power, highlighting affected figures including Lee Grant, Dorothy Comingore, Lillian Hellman, Orson Welles, John Garfield, Paul Robeson, and Charlie Chaplin, while noting Lucille Ball was cleared. They cover cooperators like Elia Kazan, Ronald Reagan, and Walt Disney, McCarthy's later rise and censure, Arthur Miller's The Crucible as allegory, and how Dalton Trumbo's credits on Spartacus/Exodus helped crack the blacklist. 00:00 Listener Warning and Intro 00:42 Cold Open Banter 01:30 Back to 1947 Setup 04:46 HUAC Targets Hollywood 11:02 What the Red Scare Was 22:31 Hollywood 10 Explained 27:26 Waldorf Statement Blacklist 33:15 Who Got Hit Hardest 34:15 Women Blacklisted Stories 38:23 Orson Welles Under Fire 41:50 Blacklist Tragedies Garfield Robeson 46:48 Chaplin Exiled Lucy Survives 51:45 Lucy Beats the Blacklist 54:31 Friendly Witnesses Exposed 54:46 Kazan Names Names 56:23 Reagan and Red Scare 57:33 Disney Testifies Too 01:02:31 McCarthy Takes the Stage 01:07:36 Army Hearings Collapse 01:09:54 Arthur Miller Strikes Back 01:13:17 Trumbo Writes in Secret 01:16:18 Spartacus Breaks the Ban 01:18:21 Real Crimes and Echoes 01:22:11 Final Thoughts and Signoff