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How to build in AI safety when you're 21 and still figuring it out with Breanna (Dakyum) Lee

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Breanna Lee is 21, studying at Northwestern, whom I met through stalking (khm-khm doing research) on AI ethics. She interned with Tech Justice Law, researching algorithmic harm and gaps in Big Tech's trust and safety efforts. In our interview, we talk about Tedio, a book series and mobile app she set out to create to help parents raise kids who can consciously refuse fast dopamine. We talked about what it actually costs to pursue this kind of work - her parents' retirement savings in Korea going toward her American university degree, the cultural expectations around studying film and philosophy, how she funds Tedio, and the honest reality of trying to build a sustainable life in AI ethics. We also got into whether ethical social media is even possible, the tools that actually help you scroll less (it's not your willpower), and what it's like to do all of this and still feel like you're procrastinating. Ha! When I was in Chicago for one day, Breanna showed me the Bean, and we ate very disappointing deep-dish pizza. Shout out to cool 21-year-olds! Resources: * Breanna’s LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/breanna-dakyum-lee/⁠] * Her start-up, Tedio [https://tediowip.framer.website/⁠] * Common Sense Media [https://www.commonsense.org/⁠], a child’s digital safety advocacy and education organisation * Maka Kids [https://www.makakids.com/⁠], a streaming app for kids with no addictive algorithms * Actions you can take [https://thehumanmovement.org/share⁠] around AI safety and ethics * Tech Justice Law [https://techjusticelaw.org/⁠], an impact litigation and advocacy organization bringing justice to individuals and communities harmed by tech products * Watch the AI Doc [https://www.humanetech.com/landing/the-ai-doc⁠] or if you want to listen to an episode instead, listen to this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCvBdmJb45s⁠] with Tristan Harris * One Sec [https://one-sec.app/⁠], an app I use to help me block Instagram (and other apps) Hosted by Elina Ashimbayeva - follow me on my adventures with money and impact on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/elina-ashimbayeva/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/makinggoodmoneypod/] Music by ⁠Mark Michele⁠ [https://open.spotify.com/artist/5AmEK91Li1IFyhfh7rrdAR] Edited by ⁠ [https://www.ethanah.com/]Jemilah Ross-Hayes [https://jemilah.myportfolio.com/]

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episode How to build in AI safety when you're 21 and still figuring it out with Breanna (Dakyum) Lee artwork

How to build in AI safety when you're 21 and still figuring it out with Breanna (Dakyum) Lee

Breanna Lee is 21, studying at Northwestern, whom I met through stalking (khm-khm doing research) on AI ethics. She interned with Tech Justice Law, researching algorithmic harm and gaps in Big Tech's trust and safety efforts. In our interview, we talk about Tedio, a book series and mobile app she set out to create to help parents raise kids who can consciously refuse fast dopamine. We talked about what it actually costs to pursue this kind of work - her parents' retirement savings in Korea going toward her American university degree, the cultural expectations around studying film and philosophy, how she funds Tedio, and the honest reality of trying to build a sustainable life in AI ethics. We also got into whether ethical social media is even possible, the tools that actually help you scroll less (it's not your willpower), and what it's like to do all of this and still feel like you're procrastinating. Ha! When I was in Chicago for one day, Breanna showed me the Bean, and we ate very disappointing deep-dish pizza. Shout out to cool 21-year-olds! Resources: * Breanna’s LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/breanna-dakyum-lee/⁠] * Her start-up, Tedio [https://tediowip.framer.website/⁠] * Common Sense Media [https://www.commonsense.org/⁠], a child’s digital safety advocacy and education organisation * Maka Kids [https://www.makakids.com/⁠], a streaming app for kids with no addictive algorithms * Actions you can take [https://thehumanmovement.org/share⁠] around AI safety and ethics * Tech Justice Law [https://techjusticelaw.org/⁠], an impact litigation and advocacy organization bringing justice to individuals and communities harmed by tech products * Watch the AI Doc [https://www.humanetech.com/landing/the-ai-doc⁠] or if you want to listen to an episode instead, listen to this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCvBdmJb45s⁠] with Tristan Harris * One Sec [https://one-sec.app/⁠], an app I use to help me block Instagram (and other apps) Hosted by Elina Ashimbayeva - follow me on my adventures with money and impact on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/elina-ashimbayeva/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/makinggoodmoneypod/] Music by ⁠Mark Michele⁠ [https://open.spotify.com/artist/5AmEK91Li1IFyhfh7rrdAR] Edited by ⁠ [https://www.ethanah.com/]Jemilah Ross-Hayes [https://jemilah.myportfolio.com/]

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episode When purpose stops paying the bills with Ashlyn Baum artwork

When purpose stops paying the bills with Ashlyn Baum

Ashlyn Baum spent five years bootstrapping a due diligence platform for NGOs and public sector organisations in New Zealand before moving back to the US, having a baby, and taking a tech job. We get into what happens when purposeful work stops providing the security you need, why people in the impact space have an allergic reaction to sales and fundraising, how AI is reshaping her thinking on money and career longevity, and what "success" actually means when you're caught between the corporate machine and the work that matters. Hosted by Elina Ashimbayeva - follow me on my adventures with money and impact on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/elina-ashimbayeva/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/makinggoodmoneypod/] Here is Ashlyn's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashlynbaum/] Music by ⁠Mark Michele⁠ [https://open.spotify.com/artist/5AmEK91Li1IFyhfh7rrdAR] Edited by ⁠ [https://www.ethanah.com/]Jemilah Ross-Hayes [https://jemilah.myportfolio.com/]

22 de may de 20261 h 7 min
episode How to run (and close) a values-driven rental shop with James Dong artwork

How to run (and close) a values-driven rental shop with James Dong

James Dong was the first person I was suggested for this podcast. I read a 41-page doc on his approach to work & values and was like… umm… yes please, can we talk?! He studied at Berkley, consulted at Bain & Company, worked in early-stage nebulousness at a number of tech startups, and launched Last Minute Gear. Last Minute Gear [https://snow.lastminutegear.com/] was an outdoor gear rental shop. James has just closed it down after 10 years of operating, and this episode is all about that. We talk about the necessary switch from scale-everything to going-local-and-small. How much James paid himself, how he operated, what he learned about triple-bottom-line businesses, and whether ‘sustainable businesses’ even exist. James is incredibly thoughtful, and I can guarantee that he will make you reflect on how you live your life. Enjoy! ✨ Useful links and resources: * James’ Approach to Work doc [https://cutt.ly/hwTsETmc] * His LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmzbond/] * @blackforager [https://www.instagram.com/blackforager/] and the specific link [https://www.instagram.com/reels/C3RUXvkLrR8/] about anti-trespass laws * The study on food waste % in the US from USDA [https://www.usda.gov/about-food/food-safety/food-loss-and-waste/food-waste-faqs] * A great recent read on what's going on with Buy Nothing [https://www.wired.com/story/the-battle-for-buy-nothing/] * Triple bottom line [https://online.hbs.edu/blog/post/what-is-the-triple-bottom-line] business explanation Hosted by Elina Ashimbayeva - follow me on my adventures with money and impact on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/elina-ashimbayeva/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/makinggoodmoneypod/] Music by ⁠Mark Michele⁠ [https://open.spotify.com/artist/5AmEK91Li1IFyhfh7rrdAR] Edited by ⁠ [https://www.ethanah.com/]Jemilah Ross-Hayes [https://jemilah.myportfolio.com/]

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episode How to run an ethical real estate company in Brooklyn with Victoria (Hagman) Alexander artwork

How to run an ethical real estate company in Brooklyn with Victoria (Hagman) Alexander

I’ve been an avid goer to all the events NYC has to offer since moving here recently. I bumped into today’s guest, Victoria at two events, which, you know, feels like universal serendipity in a huge city. Victoria runs a bunch of hyperlocal ventures and initiatives around planning and historic preservation issues across Red Hook, Brooklyn. And she sustains herself by running a real estate company, Realty Collective. It feels like ethics and real estate do not belong in the same sentence but that’s why I wanted to interview Victoria! In a world of huge real estate conglomerates like Compass, how does one operate a small, local, community-connected business? Resilient Red Hook [https://resilientredhook.com/] Realty Collective [https://realtycollective.com/] Hosted by Elina Ashimbayeva - follow me on my adventures with money and impact on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/elina-ashimbayeva/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/makinggoodmoneypod/] Music by ⁠Mark Michele⁠ [https://open.spotify.com/artist/5AmEK91Li1IFyhfh7rrdAR] Edited by ⁠ [https://www.ethanah.com/]Jemilah Ross-Hayes [https://jemilah.myportfolio.com/]

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episode How to sue your landlords and make your building rent-controlled? with Liv Malone artwork

How to sue your landlords and make your building rent-controlled? with Liv Malone

I met Liv in 2023 when we both came to NYC for a 6-week summer acting school. Years later, we reconnected, and I learned Liv is living this beautiful double (triple?) life. She's pursuing acting (I went to see her in this amazing Lesbian Bigfoot play, yes you heard that right). She's working a day job. And she's organizing to make the 72-unit apartment building where she lives in Jersey City rent-controlled — which means suing her landlords. We talked about what that process actually looks like, what it costs, how she supports herself through it all, and how she holds these three lives together. We disagree, we agree, we laugh — I feel like I got to know Liv better through recording this, so hope you enjoy a little sneak into our friendship! Find Liv's GoFundMe here [https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-bergen-grand-tenants-secure-legal-rents-and-repairs?attribution_id=sl:a04353a6-605a-432b-97aa-e2e080767870&utm_campaign=natman_sharesheet_dash&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link] and her IG here [https://www.instagram.com/liv_malone711/] Hosted by Elina Ashimbayeva - follow me on my adventures with money and impact on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/elina-ashimbayeva/] and Instagram Music by ⁠Mark Michele⁠ [https://open.spotify.com/artist/5AmEK91Li1IFyhfh7rrdAR] Edited by ⁠ [https://www.ethanah.com/]Jemilah Ross-Hayes [https://jemilah.myportfolio.com/]

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