Gut Prep Before the Holiday with Shannon Sarna of The Nosher

Diasporic Foodways, Pickle Trends, and "Unusual" Family Traditions with Author Michael W. Twitty

Most Americans underestimate how much industry and tradition shape our Jewish and Southern food. This week, Liz and Jeffrey sit down with Michael W. Twitty, the renowned culinary historian and James Beard Award–winning author of The Cooking Gene and Koshersoul. The three dive into how industrialization transformed kosher foods from trusted community staples into mass-produced, low-quality products, and how that shift may be behind the decline of once-great Jewish delis. They also explore ways in which certain traditions are kept alive, the best foods for pickling, and so much more. A prolific writer and food justice advocate, his unique perspective on Black, Jewish, and Southern culinary crossovers adds a special flair to this lively discussion, especially during Pride and Juneteenth month. Learn more about Michael and purchase his all of books, including Koshersoul, here: https://michaelwtwitty.com/ [https://michaelwtwitty.com/] Show notes: Pre-order Queer Soup Night: The Cookbook: https://combospress.com/products/queer-soup-night-the-cookbook [https://combospress.com/products/queer-soup-night-the-cookbook] Information on the women-led Kosher Meat Riot of 1910: https://www.thejewishnews.com/community/the-jewish-women-behind-the-detroit-kosher-meat-riot-of-1910/article_47223202-21a0-11ef-b468-9749a64402cb.html [https://www.thejewishnews.com/community/the-jewish-women-behind-the-detroit-kosher-meat-riot-of-1910/article_47223202-21a0-11ef-b468-9749a64402cb.html] An illuminating article Michael wrote about Juneteenth for Atlas Obscura: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/history-of-juneteenth-food [https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/history-of-juneteenth-food] This episode was produced by Felicia Reich and edited by Stella Hofferman. Got a burning question on Jewish cooking and deli culture? Submit your question at https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline [https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline] or email podcast@gefilteria.com [podcast@gefilteria.com]! Meet Me At The Deli is co-hosted by Liz Alpern and Jeffrey Yoskowitz of The Gefilteria. Visit http://gefilteria.com [http://gefilteria.com] for recipes, workshops, The Gefilte Manifesto cookbook, and more. This show is an original podcast by Heeb Media, an independent digital nonprofit for subversive Jewish culture. Circumcision not required. Follow: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/ [https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en [https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedi [https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedia]

"What About P'tcha?" with Liz and Jeffrey

The one where Liz and Jeffrey answer the age-old question, "What about p'tcha?" This week, Liz and Jeffrey defend some of their hottest food takes, try an extra crunchy peanut snack, and explore the rich tradition of the gelatinous delicacy known as p'tcha, or gala. Show notes: The adult Jewish summer camp Liz mentioned (Trybal Gatherings): https://www.trybalgatherings.com [https://www.trybalgatherings.com/events] P'tcha recipe from friend-of-the-podcast, Darra Goldstein: https://www.jewishfoodsociety.org/recipes/ptcha-calves-foot-aspic [https://www.jewishfoodsociety.org/recipes/ptcha-calves-foot-aspic] This episode was produced by Felicia Reich and edited by Stella Hofferman. Got a burning question on Jewish cooking and deli culture? Submit your question at https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline [https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline] or email podcast@gefilteria.com [podcast@gefilteria.com]! Meet Me At The Deli is co-hosted by Liz Alpern and Jeffrey Yoskowitz of The Gefilteria. Visit http://gefilteria.com [http://gefilteria.com] for recipes, workshops, The Gefilte Manifesto cookbook, and more. This show is an original podcast by Heeb Media, an independent digital nonprofit for subversive Jewish culture. Circumcision not required. Follow: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/ [https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en [https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedia [https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedia] Support this show by subscribing, rating, and leaving us a review. Join the Heeb Media Guild and shape the future of Jewish subculture and entertainment! Become a member here: https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeame [https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeame]... [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqblFXWDlET3ZYNHE5dkdoS1cwTzZFNG5oS3NzQXxBQ3Jtc0tubFV0dDQxaWV6RzZBWW1nRmVQVFg3RFdCLU5RSUZmaHBpMzc0VUcxUFFBemVUbkpnNzIwV0YwbHBreTN6emhkVkgxNmF3UFFSUmRXb2xxaDgtQWcyZkdTc1lpUm1KN2lib0RRc3hrd29NdUJPQkdCTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fheebmedia.com%2Fpages%2Fbecomeamember&v=aY9OvkUm1Mw]

Gut Prep Before the Holiday with Shannon Sarna of The Nosher

Our favorite Jewish cooking experts are joined this week by cookbook author Shannon Sarna. Shannon has written several cookbooks about Jewish food, including Modern Jewish Baker: Challah, Babka, Bagels & More and Modern Jewish Comfort Food: 100 Fresh Recipes for Classic Dishes from Kugel to Kreplach. Shannon was also Founding Editor of The Nosher, the popular website dedicated to Jewish food. Listen in as the trio talks about matzo balls as big as a baby's head, getting kicked out of delis, and their favorite delis from outside of major Jewish food centers. Liz brings pickle-flavored sour straws and matzo granola for the group to share, and the reactions are... mixed. Show Notes: Deli recommendations from around the country: Zingerman’s Deli in Ann Arbor, Michigan: https://www.zingermansdeli.com/ [https://www.zingermansdeli.com/] Kenny & Ziggy’s in Houston, Texas: https://www.kennyandziggys.com/ [https://www.kennyandziggys.com/] Larder in Cleveland, Ohio: https://larderdb.com/ [https://larderdb.com/] Goldie’s Bagels in Columbia, Missouri: https://www.ordergoldies.com/ [https://www.ordergoldies.com/] Liz's Farmer's Cheese recipe for Shavuot: https://www.gefilteria.com/farmers-cheese [https://www.gefilteria.com/farmers-cheese] This episode was produced by Felicia Reich and edited by Stella Hofferman. Got a burning question on Jewish cooking and deli culture? Submit your question at https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline [https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline]! Meet Me At The Deli is co-hosted by Liz Alpern and Jeffrey Yoskowitz of The Gefilteria. Visit http://gefilteria.com [http://gefilteria.com] for recipes, workshops, The Gefilte Manifesto cookbook, and more. This show is an original podcast by Heeb Media, an independent digital nonprofit for subversive Jewish culture. Circumcision not required. Follow: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/ [https://www.instagram.com/gefilteria/] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en [https://www.instagram.com/heebmedia/?hl=en] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedia [https://www.youtube.com/@HeebMedia] Support this show by subscribing, rating, and leaving us a review. Join the Heeb Media Guild and shape the future of Jewish subculture and entertainment! Become a member here: https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeame [https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeame]... [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqblFXWDlET3ZYNHE5dkdoS1cwTzZFNG5oS3NzQXxBQ3Jtc0tubFV0dDQxaWV6RzZBWW1nRmVQVFg3RFdCLU5RSUZmaHBpMzc0VUcxUFFBemVUbkpnNzIwV0YwbHBreTN6emhkVkgxNmF3UFFSUmRXb2xxaDgtQWcyZkdTc1lpUm1KN2lib0RRc3hrd29NdUJPQkdCTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fheebmedia.com%2Fpages%2Fbecomeamember&v=aY9OvkUm1Mw]

Corned Moose Recipe from the Great Yukon Beyond with Liz and Jeffrey

In this extra-special solo episode, Jeffrey regales us with tales from his adventures at Bagel Fest West. Liz discovers the tiniest pink Himalayan salt packet ever to exist. The two unpack the makings of a great mock chopped liver, along with the reason why chefs decide to write a cookbook. And Jeffrey uncovers a corned moose recipe from a fan residing in the Great White North. Show Notes: Liz's Mock Chopped Liver Recipe: https://www.gefilteria.com/mushroom-mockchop [https://www.gefilteria.com/mushroom-mockchop] Jon's Corned Moose Recipe: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aLqzYKSkd5ygCZ_qr7kWoqtlVA25zEZq/view?usp=sharing [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aLqzYKSkd5ygCZ_qr7kWoqtlVA25zEZq/view?usp=sharing] New York Times article about private equity-backed bagel shops: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/dining/private-equity-bagel-business.html [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/dining/private-equity-bagel-business.html] More information about BagelFest: https://www.bagelfest.com/ [https://www.bagelfest.com/] LA Delis Jeffrey enjoyed during his trip for Bagel Fest West: Langer’s Deli: https://www.langersdeli.com/ [https://www.langersdeli.com/] The Nosh of Beverly Hills: https://www.thenosh.com/ [https://www.thenosh.com/] Factor’s Famous Deli: https://www.factorsdeli.com/ [https://www.factorsdeli.com/] Canter’s Deli: https://cantersdeli.com/ [https://cantersdeli.com/] Belle’s Bagels: https://www.bellesbagels.com/ [https://www.bellesbagels.com/] This episode is dedicated to Jim. May his memory always and forever be a blessing. This episode was produced by Felicia Reich and edited by Stella Hofferman. Got a burning question on Jewish cooking and deli culture? Submit your question at https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline [https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline]! Meet Me At The Deli is co-hosted by Liz Alpern and Jeffrey Yoskowitz of The Gefilteria. Visit http://gefilteria.com [http://gefilteria.com] for recipes, workshops, The Gefilte Manifesto cookbook, and more. This show is an original podcast by Heeb Media, an independent digital platform for subversive Jewish culture. Circumcision not required. Catch episode highlights on Heeb Media's YouTube page! Follow: Instagram: @gefilteria Instagram: @heebmedia YouTube: @HeebMedia Support this show by subscribing, rating, and leaving us a review. Join the Heeb Media Guild and shape the future of Jewish subculture and entertainment! Become a member here: https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeamember [https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeamember]

Are Pastrami and Mustard Enough? with guest Elyssa Heller of Edith's Sandwich Counter

Our favorite duo in the Jewish cooking space are joined by Elyssa Heller, chef and owner of Edith's Sandwich Counter, another iconic chef breathing new life into this very special cuisine. Elyssa sits down with Liz and Jeffrey to explore her aversion to the boring deli sandwich, how that inspired the birth of Edith's, which Dr. Brown's soda flavor cures hangovers, and where she stands on the great Morton versus Crystal Kosher salt debate. With two locations across New York City, Edith's Sandwich Counter is known for innovating on traditional deli food with flavors from Jewish cultures around the world. Visit them in person and learn more at https://edithsbk.com/ [https://edithsbk.com/] Episode Show Notes: Jeffrey's Cel-Ray Recipe: https://www.gefilteria.com/cel-ray [https://www.gefilteria.com/cel-ray] This episode was produced by Felicia Reich and edited by Stella Hofferman. Got a burning question on Jewish cooking and deli culture? Submit your question at https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline [https://tinyurl.com/GefilteHotline]! Meet Me At The Deli is co-hosted by Liz Alpern and Jeffrey Yoskowitz of The Gefilteria. Visit gefilteria.com [http://gefilteria.com] for recipes, workshops, The Gefilte Manifesto cookbook, and more. This show is an Original podcast by Heeb Media, an independent digital platform for subversive Jewish culture. Circumcision not required. Catch episode highlights on Heeb Media's YouTube page! Follow: Instagram: @gefilteria Instagram: @heebmedia YouTube: @HeebMedia Support this show by subscribing, rating, and leaving us a review. Join the Heeb Media Guild and shape the future of Jewish subculture and entertainment! Become a member here: https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeamember [https://heebmedia.com/pages/becomeamember]