Are Superteams Dead In The Second Apron Era

The Great NBA Overrated Draft: Hot Takes, Hoops History & Basketball Blasphemy

The Missing the Point crew is back with a full four-man NBA debate show, and this one is built to start arguments. Dave, Mike, Zach, and Matt draft their ultimate teams of the most overrated players in NBA history, taking on some of basketball’s biggest names, loudest legacies, and most untouchable fan favorites. From Michael Jordan vs. LeBron discourse to the mythology of Kobe Bryant, the Celtics legacy of Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce, the MVP arguments around Steve Nash and Russell Westbrook, and the “what if” careers of Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming, Blake Griffin, Carmelo Anthony, Allen Iverson, Chris Paul, Wilt Chamberlain, Karl Malone, Paul George and more — nobody is safe. This episode asks the real question behind every NBA bar debate: when does greatness become overrated? Is it about rings? Stats? Playoff failures? Media hype? Fan nostalgia? Shoe commercials? YouTube highlights? Or is it just about which retired player gets talked about like a basketball god when the resume doesn’t quite match the legend? The guys break down overrated NBA superstars, Hall of Fame debates, playoff collapses, Boston Celtics bias, Lakers hate, Knicks mythology, old-school NBA stat inflation, modern basketball hot takes, and the players whose reputations may have outgrown their actual impact on winning. Featuring heated arguments, unhinged draft logic, Celtics sacrilege, Lakers slander, Jordan mythology, Kobe efficiency debates, Paul Pierce chaos, and enough NBA history rage bait to ruin at least one group chat. Listen now for one of our funniest and most argumentative NBA episodes yet — and let us know who drafted the best overrated team. ----------------- NBA most overrated players, most overrated NBA players ever, Michael Jordan overrated debate, Kobe Bryant overrated, Kevin Garnett overrated, Steve Nash MVP debate, Paul Pierce Celtics, Russell Westbrook overrated, Carmelo Anthony Knicks, Allen Iverson legacy, Chris Paul no rings, Tracy McGrady what if, Yao Ming Hall of Fame, Wilt Chamberlain overrated, Karl Malone playoffs, Paul George playoff failures, NBA podcast, basketball debate podcast, Missing the Point podcast, NBA draft debate, Boston Celtics podcast, NBA hot takes, NBA history debate Hashtags: #NBA #NBAPodcast #BasketballPodcast #MissingThePoint #MichaelJordan #KobeBryant #Celtics #Lakers #NBAHistory #OverratedPlayers #BasketballDebate Support the show [https://www.buymeacoffee.com/MTPshow] ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

When Sports Heroes Fall What Do We Root For

The New York Knicks just pulled off the biggest comeback in NBA Finals history, erasing a 29-point deficit against Victor Wembanyama and the San Antonio Spurs. Was it a legendary Knicks comeback, a generational Spurs collapse, or both? On this episode of Missing the Point, Dave and Matt break down the chaos from every angle: Wemby’s late-game fatigue, the Spurs’ three-point addiction, Jalen Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns refusing to quit, Knicks fans taking over the sports world, and whether this series is already over. Then the conversation shifts to Conor McGregor’s UFC return, the fall of one of MMA’s biggest stars, Dana White, fighter exploitation, UFC politics, and what happens when your sports heroes let you down. Topics include:  NBA Finals Game 4 reaction  Knicks vs Spurs breakdown  Victor Wembanyama criticism  Jalen Brunson and KAT’s leadership  The biggest comeback in NBA Finals history  Modern NBA officiating  Conor McGregor’s return  UFC, Dana White, and fighter pay  Why sports heroes always disappoint Support the show [https://www.buymeacoffee.com/MTPshow] ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

Are Superteams Dead In The Second Apron Era

The Spurs had the lead, the crowd had the vibe, and the Knicks still walked out with a 2-0 series edge. We react in real time to a Game 2 that flips from “go to bed early” to full chaos, starting with Victor Wembanyama getting a clean late look and ending with the kind of execution questions that decide NBA playoff series. We also get into the moment that keeps bugging us: when you’ve got a timeout and only seconds left, why are you choosing speed over clarity?  From there, we zoom in on what the Knicks are actually doing right. Jalen Brunson misses, keeps shooting, and the entire team wants him taking the next one anyway. That trust changes everything. We talk Knicks shot creation, paint pressure, the value of role players who do their job, and why this group feels like it has “clicked” at exactly the right time. On the Spurs side, we look at adjustments, fatigue, and why being down 0-2 doesn’t automatically mean the series is done.  Then we pull the lens back to team-building in the second apron era: why the old big-three blueprint is fading, why depth and rookie contracts matter more, and how that frames a Celtics debate around Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, and what a real identity rebuild would require. We finish with an NFL detour on the AJ Brown trade, Drake May versus Caleb Williams, the Madden cover outrage machine, and a Chicago Bears stadium rant that somehow turns into a civic philosophy argument. If you like smart hoops talk with messy fan energy, hit play, then subscribe, share the show, and leave a review with your Game 3 prediction. Support the show [https://www.buymeacoffee.com/MTPshow] ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

Guided By Hate And Betting Against New York

The NBA Finals can feel like a chess match, but sometimes it’s simpler than that: can you survive 48 minutes against a 7'4 alien who bends every possession. We break down Spurs vs Knicks with the two storylines that actually decide the series: what “stopping” Victor Wembanyama really looks like in playoff basketball, and whether New York can win without turning the game into a parade of foul trouble and desperation threes. We talk traps up top, physical wear, emotional edges, and the uncomfortable truth that every scheme can be correct and still fail. On the Knicks side, we treat this like the Jalen Brunson moment it is. If he delivers a title, he changes Knicks history, but the path is narrow: beat elite perimeter defenders, control tempo, and own clutch time at MSG. We also dig into the part fans miss when they stare at points, including assists as a signal of control, role players stealing games, and why De’Aaron Fox might quietly tilt the whole matchup. Then we pivot to the NFL and react to a pair of franchise shaping moves: the New England Patriots trading for AJ Brown to give Drake May a true WR1, the Stef Diggs ripple effects, and the Rams landing Myles Garrett in a trade that could change the Super Bowl odds overnight. If you like NBA strategy, NFL roster building, and honest predictions with Boston attitude, press play, then subscribe, share the show, and leave a review. What’s your Finals pick and why? Support the show [https://www.buymeacoffee.com/MTPshow] ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

Amazing Thunder, Roaring Knicks, Freakish Wemby, Cavs Give The Ick

The playoffs always expose what a team really is, and we get into the version of that truth that Celtics fans do not want to hear. We break down Boston’s exit with an unfiltered coaching conversation, from predictable offence to the difference between “shoot more threes” and having real counters when a series tightens. If you have strong takes on leadership, max contracts, or what “easy to play against” actually looks like, you will have plenty to argue with here. Then we zoom out to what is making this postseason so addictive. The New York Knicks are playing a brand of hard nosed basketball that feels old school without being nostalgic, and we talk through why it travels in the playoffs. On the other side, Thunder Spurs is basketball at a higher speed, with Victor Wembanyama bending the court and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander answering every punch. We dig into Oklahoma City’s biggest weapon: depth, flexibility, and a true one through 15 rotation that lets them adjust without panicking. We also hit the stuff fans yell about every night: refs, replay, foul baiting, and simple NBA rule changes that could clean up the product fast, especially around landing space and quick review decisions. We even take a short detour into Netflix true crime and new movies, because apparently our brains cannot stop analysing narratives anywhere. Subscribe to Missing the Point, share this with a friend who is watching every game, and leave a review with your hottest playoff take. What is the single biggest reason the Celtics went home early? Support the show [https://www.buymeacoffee.com/MTPshow] ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com