Lets Talk Wealth Podcast - Hosted by Robert Montes, CPFA® and Josie Allred
Estate Planning Basics with Attorney Natalie Black (Worden Thane) | Wills, Trusts, Probate & Powers of Attorney (Note : Not official legal advise) On this episode of Lets Talk Wealth Podcast, host Robert and co-host Josie talk with Natalie Black, a partner at Missoula law firm Worden & Thane, about her path from law school intern to partner and her “work hard, play hard” philosophy. Natalie explains core estate-planning documents—wills, trusts, powers of attorney, and living wills—why powers of attorney matter even for young adults, and how failing to plan can trigger costly guardianship/conservatorship proceedings. The conversation covers probate in Montana, strategies to avoid it (beneficiary designations, joint ownership, transfer-on-death deeds, and trusts), and why beneficiary designations can override a will. They compare Montana practice to “big law,” discuss revocable vs irrevocable trusts (including estate-tax and specialized needs planning concepts), touch on UTMA and 529 considerations, and highlight real-world scenarios involving incapacity, family conflict, and fraud risks. ( Note : Not to take this as official legal advice ) 00:00 Welcome to the Lets Talk Wealth Podcast 00:40 Work Hard Play Hard 03:24 Becoming a Law Partner 05:17 Why Law School 09:39 Standing Out in Interviews 16:34 Big Law vs Montana Practice 21:59 Choosing Estate Planning 27:30 Estate Planning Basics 32:31 Recruiting Drive to MEPS 33:01 Wrong Way Crash Scene 34:04 First Responder Aftermath 34:53 Estate Planning Cost Reality 36:07 Holographic Wills Explained 37:44 Power of Attorney Pitfalls 39:56 Beneficiary Designation Nightmares 43:34 Why Beneficiaries Override Wills 46:15 Probate Process Breakdown 51:38 Guardianship for Minor Kids 55:57 UTMA and 529 Tradeoffs 59:36 Changing UTMA Needs Court 01:02:53 Parenting Tangent and Control 01:05:09 Control in Marriage 01:05:57 Trust Basics Explained 01:07:13 Revocable vs Irrevocable 01:09:53 Estate Tax Gifting Trusts 01:12:52 State Laws and Community Property 01:15:39 Prenups and Protecting Wealth 01:25:56 Medicaid Trusts and Lookback 01:28:24 Corporate Trustees and Compliance 01:31:55 Special Needs Trusts 01:33:23 Medicaid Workarounds Reality 01:33:54 Estate Planning Priorities 01:35:13 Power of Attorney Basics 01:35:57 Living Wills and Trusts 01:37:09 Durable vs Springing POA 01:39:13 Limiting Authority and Fiduciary Duty 01:42:43 Undue Influence Red Flags 01:45:46 Challenging Capacity in Court 01:47:55 Scams and Advisor Intervention 01:52:27 Stewardship and Value Mindset 01:56:16 How to Connect and Wrap Up ( Disclaimer : This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only. This is not official legal or wealth advice)
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