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What Comes After Trump? Joel Rubin & Ameshia Cross Get Real

1 h 3 min · 8 de jun de 2026
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This week on Nola Haynes Is Not A Spy, Dr. Nola sits down with political strategist Ameshia Cross and former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Joel Rubin for a conversation that spans foreign policy, race, media, misinformation, and the future of American leadership. Together they unpack the gap between political slogans and geopolitical reality, the consequences of "America First" foreign policy, the growing influence of disinformation, and why America's adversaries may understand our divisions better than we do. They also discuss mental health, the long-term impact of the pandemic on young people, the role of Black voices in national security, and what comes after the Trump era. We’re always looking for new opportunities to partner with creators, companies, politicians, and organizations that share our mission. If you’re interested in partnering with us to help reshape the national conversation — get in touch! @wearefindout

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