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What happens when a doctor spends a decade at McKinsey, returns to the NHS, and creates a Chief Innovation Officer role from scratch? In this episode, we speak with Dr Rishi Das-Gupta, former Chief Innovation Officer at Royal Brompton Hospital and now CEO of Health Innovation Network South London and DigitalHealth.London. He shares how he went from covering the whole hospital overnight as a junior doctor to reshaping how the NHS adopts technology at scale. • 🏥 The one-in-four on-call rota that showed him what the NHS was getting wrong • 🧮 Why he left medicine for McKinsey — and why two years became ten • 🧠 Building a US healthcare practice and lessons from data-rich industries • 🔧 Returning to the NHS after a decade away and creating a Chief Innovation Officer role • ⚖️ Why implementation beats strategy — and making change happen inside hospital systems • 📈 The future of NHS digital transformation and why he's optimistic about what's next Rishi's story is a masterclass in leaving medicine, gaining industry perspective, and returning to transform the system from within. Follow us on: 🗞 Substack [https://outofprogramme.substack.com/] 💼 LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/outofprogramme] ▶ YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfProgramme] 🎧 Listen on: Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/1ZbQCk6B9ongfOvKFCxIdx] | Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/out-of-programme/id1791647812]
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