Peaceful Hugs Podcast
In this episode of the Peaceful Hugs Podcast, hosts Mark Z and Lorelei Cromer sit down with Jillian — Licensed Social Worker, therapist, and Mark's own counselor — for one of the most open and disarmingly honest conversations the show has ever hosted. Recorded during Mental Health Awareness Month, this episode pulls no punches: Mark shares his own journey through a called-off wedding, a traumatic robbery, and the very real stigma that kept him — a 59-year-old man — from asking for help. And Jillian, making her podcast debut, brings the clinical knowledge, the warmth, and just enough push-back to make it all land. Jillian traces her path into social work back to childhood — fighting against her family's wishes, navigating her own experiences, and arriving at a simple but profound conviction: we are all human, having a human experience, just trying to deal with it in whatever way we can. She breaks down what therapy actually is versus what most people imagine it to be, why your best friend — no matter how wise or well-meaning — simply cannot do what a trained therapist can, and what treatments like EMDR are actually doing inside your body when talk alone isn't enough. The conversation gets real about forgiveness — the difference between saying sorry and actually reconciling, why so many people can't accept forgiveness even when it's offered, and how self-forgiveness is often the deepest wound of all. Mark opens up about forgiving the man who robbed him, crying at his death, and what it would have meant to look him in the eye and say the words out loud. They also dig into the workplace — how burnout, dysregulation, and unprocessed trauma show up every day in high-performing people who have no idea anything is wrong — and how Unbridled Acts' Identity Fund is quietly changing that, one company at a time. And yes — Ted Lasso comes up. Because of course it does. Takeaways You don't have to go alone. Reaching out is not weakness — it's the bravest thing you can do. Your best friend loves you, but they cannot give you an unbiased perspective. That's what therapy is for. Trauma is stored in the body. Saying "I don't think about it anymore" doesn't mean it's gone — it means it's coming out another way. If therapy is all validation and no challenge, you're not getting what you need. Find someone who will push you. You can't accept forgiveness from others until you learn to forgive yourself. Forgiveness is a process, not a moment — and asking "do you forgive me?" might be the step most of us skip. Stuffing your feelings down is not coping. Those feelings will come out — as addiction, anger, illness, or walls around your heart. Mental health isn't visible. The person who looks perfectly fine in the parking lot might be barely holding it together. Put your oxygen mask on first. You cannot pour from an empty cup. It's not always about you — and remembering that changes everything about how you respond to the people around you. High-functioning and high-performing doesn't mean okay. Your nervous system doesn't care about your productivity. The truth will set you free — but it'll tick you off first. Chapters 00:15 Welcome & Why Mental Health Month Hits Close to Home 03:00 Mark Opens Up — The Called-Off Wedding, the Robbery & Asking for Help 07:30 Meet Jillian — Her Path Into Social Work & Why Her Family Pushed Back 12:00 We're All Human — The Playbook Nobody Gave Us 15:45 Why Your Best Friend Can't Replace a Therapist 19:30 EMDR, CBT & the Treatments Most People Have Never Heard Of 24:15 When Medication Is the Bridge, Not the Destination 28:00 Forgiveness Is a Process — Saying Sorry Isn't Enough 33:30 Can You Accept Forgiveness If You Can't Forgive Yourself? 38:00 How to Know If You've Found the Right Therapist 43:15 Honesty in the Room — What Happens When You're Not 47:30 Trauma Lives in the Body — Even When You Think You're Over It 52:00 The Identity Fund — Destigmatizing Mental Health in the Workplace 57:30 Faith, Anchors & What You Hold Onto When It's 1 AM 1:02:00 It's Not Always About You — Two Pieces of Life-Changing Advice 1:04:30 Movie Recommendations: Little Black Book & Hector and the Search for Happiness 1:06:00 Closing Thoughts — Give People the Benefit of the Doubt About the Peaceful Hugs Podcast The Peaceful Hugs Podcast is a space for thoughtful, real conversations about faith, culture, purpose, and the stories that shape us. Hosted by Mark Z and Lorelei Cromer, the show brings together voices from different backgrounds and generations to explore what it means to live with empathy — especially when the world feels loud, polarized, and quick to judge. At the center of it all is a simple idea: kindness matters, and we can't afford to lose it.
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